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May 24, 2022

Interview with Daisy Guttridge

We had the pleasure of interviewing Daisy Guttridge over Zoom video!

Daisy Guttridge reveals the music video for fan-favorite track “Skin” today, March 9th. Featuring creative direction from Daisy Guttridge herself, the singer/songwriter pours her...

We had the pleasure of interviewing Daisy Guttridge over Zoom video!

Daisy Guttridge reveals the music video for fan-favorite track “Skin” today, March 9th. Featuring creative direction from Daisy Guttridge herself, the singer/songwriter pours her heart out, with a coy guest appearance from co-writer Marc E. Bassy and his soulful vocals. The video’s look is inspired by Italian fashion photographer Davide Sorrenti, who Daisy cites as a major influence. Director of Photography Emad Rashidi was able to help bring this vision to life with the use of similarly raw, personal, and authentic close-ups. Shot on location in Los Angeles by director Danny Ghost (Daniel Drachman), the visual follows Daisy as she sings about a crush, with cuts of a female love interest interspersed throughout. The LGBTQ+ inclusive story showcases Daisy’s fashion sense and natural star power, displaying her as a tastemaker across creative industries. Co-written and produced by Tk Kayembeh.

Following the positive critical reception of her first single “i found u,” Daisy Guttridge recently embarked on Hippie Sabotage’s 46-date Rooms of Hallucination Tour. Guttridge will support the Californian duo on all of their massive set of North American shows. A regular within the Hippie Sabotage tour camp, Daisy Guttridge is known for her previous work with the aforementioned pair, as well as tracks with Tommy Trash and Big Gigantic. She provided vocals for Vicetone on his hit single “Waiting” which has notched up over 18 million streams. She is set to release her debut EP The Highs in 2022. The project is entirely produced by her trusted collaborator Tk Kayembe, who plays a key role in shaping Daisy’s sound.

The England-born and LA-based singer/songwriter allows a deeper look into her complicated, relatable experiences as a human and an artist. Speaking about her mental health, career, and relationships, The Highs is Guttridge’s powerful project that lets Guttridge speak her truth for the first time.

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Hello! It is Adam. Welcome back to bringing it backwards. A podcast where both legendary and rising artists tell their own personal stories of how they achieved stardom. On this episode, we had a chance to chat with Daisy Guttridge. Over zoom video. Daisy was born and raised in the UK in Birmingham, and she talks about how she got into music. She comes from a musical family, her mom saying her dad saying and played guitar growing up. She also credits her vocal abilities to the car rides. She would have tuned from school with her mom, just singing along to the record. She'd be playing in the car. Her dad taught her guitar at 11 years old. She talks about that. Starting off with cover songs, eventually putting up her own music onto SoundCloud. 3 (2m 9s): She had a few trips out to Los Angeles as a kid. Her dad was a huge fan of LA and the music industry and entertainment. So they would take their holiday trips out to LA one time there in Los Angeles. I think Daisy says she was 17. So she's almost done with high school. At this point, they're staying at the Beverly Hills hotel and she's like, you know, I've been putting these songs up. No, one's finding me. How do I get into this, this world? She goes on, Instagram looks up geotags and photos from right around the area. Find somebody that's a talent agent that had just posted pictures. A few hours ago, follows them, starts liking some of their pictures. 3 (2m 49s): This ends up working scores, her meeting with this manager and the manager ends up inviting her to stay in Los Angeles to try and help Daisy start a career in the music industry. Basically talks to us about that, how she ended up getting from Birmingham, then living in LA, the first successes she had as a songwriter, all the way up to her first release as an artist with the song I found you, we hear all about that and a new cover she's got coming out of a lady Gaga song and story behind that and all about the new project she has coming out as well called the highs. You can watch our interview with Daisy on our Facebook page and YouTube channel at bringing it backwards. 3 (3m 30s): It would be awesome if you subscribe to our channel like us on Facebook, follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik TOK at bringing back pod. And if you are listening to this on Spotify, apple music, Google podcasts would be awesome. If you follow us there as well and hook us up with a five-star review, 4 (3m 47s): We'd appreciate your support. If you follow and subscribe to our podcasts, wherever you listen to podcasts, 3 (3m 53s): We're bringing it backwards with Daisy Guttridge 5 (3m 56s): What's up. How's it going? I'm 3 (3m 58s): Doing well. How are you? 5 (3m 59s): I'm good. Thank you. I'm good. Finally, back from tour. So recovered, I've been back for like five days so far, so feeling good, feeling good. 3 (4m 10s): That's good. How is the tour? 5 (4m 12s): Honestly, it was incredible. It was like my first time being an opener. Like usually I'd gone out with I'd wanna have with hippie sabotage boys before, but only ever like coming out during desat and doing like one song for slime. It was like, all right, me by myself, 30 minutes SAC. I am the singer, the DJ and the hype man in one. So I was, I was pretty nervous, but it went super well and I, I missed, 3 (4m 42s): So this is the first time you've really done a full set, like full on by yourself. 5 (4m 47s): Yeah. Wow thing. So it was, it was pretty, pretty scary just cause I only had one song. I, at the time of going on tour, something is 30 minutes out of basically unreleased music. No one's ever had, but everyone was like amazing that like everyone came to the show, like loved it and it went, it went great. So 3 (5m 7s): That is so cool. Was that the first time you really went on a full tour two or is it usually like you'd come out on a certain dates or? 5 (5m 13s): Yeah, I've been on tours before, but this is like the longest tool ever, like actual was 46 shows and that's like two tours in one. So it was pretty intense me living on the bus for 10 guys, but we got through it, we got through it and came out, vetted the other side. So, so it was good. 3 (5m 35s): That is incredible. That is incredible. Well I'm Adam, by the way. And thank you so much for 5 (5m 41s): Sure. 3 (5m 41s): Yeah. I appreciate you doing this. This is all about you and your journey and music 5 (5m 46s): And 3 (5m 47s): Yeah, we'll touch a bit more on that tour if, if you don't mind, but I want to start off by where were you born and raised? 5 (5m 55s): I was born in Birmingham, England, Birmingham. I know there's one over here too, but them over there. 3 (6m 3s): Okay. What was it like Holly? I mean, cause you live in LA now. Is that whatever it is. Okay. So how old are you when you moved to LA? 5 (6m 10s): I was like 18, 19. 3 (6m 12s): Oh, okay. So you spent most of your time in Birmingham then? 5 (6m 16s): Yeah. So my whole like childhood, like growing up in Birmingham, which is, it's a pretty busy place. Like it's the second biggest city in the UK. So it wasn't too much of like a culture shock in that respect, moving to another big city. But it was definitely interesting having that conversation with my parents when I was like 18 being like, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to go to the other side of the world alone. 3 (6m 38s): Right, right. Yeah. I'm going to move to America, you know? No big deal, especially in LA, like, you know, that's okay. I want to get to that, but okay. Tell me about, well, what was it like growing up there in Birmingham? Was it you lived in the city or did you live in a suburb outside of the city? Like, tell me about, 5 (6m 54s): I live in a suburb outside of the city. I like get like kind of a smaller little suburb. And then I went to the same school from when I was two to when I was like 18. So kind of like only like ever like new, like one school, like had the same sort of friends growing up. 3 (7m 13s): So they don't split you up like in an elementary school and then like more of a middle school. And then 5 (7m 17s): I do, but my school like did it all. So it was like, you can just go there for everything. 3 (7m 22s): It's 5 (7m 23s): Pretty nice. And it was cool cause they had great like extra curricular stuff. Like music was massive in my school. So like on my like lunchtime breaks, I could just go, I'm being like 12, I'd go into the music book and like, there'd be like three pianos that no one was using. Like, and I just go in there and like spend my like half an hour lunch break, just like messing around on the piano. And they had like drums, they had everything. So that was pretty neat. 3 (7m 48s): Wow. That is really cool. When did you get into music? I mean, how old were you when you started getting 5 (7m 54s): I'd always been into it. Like my dad has videos of me like singing when I'm like three, like at the TV, but yeah, I'd always been into it kind of just, yeah, I don't know. It should always have like a fascination with it growing up. My mom would like drive me to school and we'd listen to the Karen cop and the CD. Like back-to-back like, that was my first education in music and I was lucky. Cause you know, when you reach a certain age, they're like, alright, it's time to like get the bus to school. I had a little sister that went to the same school. So I was able to like keep being driven to school, which I definitely attest to my singing voice now. Cause it was actually years of practicing like in the car every day. 5 (8m 35s): I feel like that set the foundation for it for science city. But I like, I sang every single day, like seven days a week. So 3 (8m 43s): Yeah. So you were just sitting in the car, was your whole family singing or were you the one singing in the passenger seat? 5 (8m 49s): I was sitting in the passenger seat. My little sister was in the back telling me to like shut up and my mom would, my mom would sing as well. And then my dad, same everyone sang. So it was very like musical family. My dad played guitar. He taught me how to play guitar when I was like 11, which was great because now like that's how I write songs. That kind of helped me in the beginning before we even knew it. 3 (9m 13s): Where you playing piano before guitar? I mean, you mentioned piano and 5 (9m 17s): I was playing guitar before piano. And then like, why would you, I don't know how to read like music, but I would take the songs. I knew how to play on the guitar and the chords and look visual images of how to play those chords on the piano. And that's how I learned to play the piano just by learning songs. And then now I can hear something and play the piano. 3 (9m 38s): Oh wow. Yeah. 5 (9m 40s): So it was kind of an unconventional way of learning it, but, but it worked. 3 (9m 44s): That's amazing. Well, you said your dad taught you how to play guitar at 11 years old. Was that something you were interested in or was he like, Hey, you should probably learn that play. 5 (9m 53s): I was, I was a massive like Avril Levine fan growing up when I was like nine, I think my mom took me to my first concert, which was our <inaudible> and like she played a guitar. I thought she was so cool. So my dad was like, okay, like we had some guitars at the highest. I was like, let all like teach you. But I get so frustrated because I would start like playing. And then as soon as I start singing, my hand would stop like hand-eye coordination. But for the first couple of months, like it was, it was a struggle, but we got through it and then, and then yeah, I just would jam out with my dad at home. 3 (10m 27s): Are you still a fan of ever or ever Levine? Like her new record 5 (10m 33s): I do is definitely like, I feel like pop punk is kind of coming back out, like machine 3 (10m 39s): Everything, 5 (10m 40s): Which is awesome because I feel like that that was her. She like kind of pioneered that path. Right. I love it. That I feel like her OGE records will always be like of that. 3 (10m 50s): It's still at your favorites. Yeah. I listened to the album and I was pretty, pretty impressed by it. I'm not gonna lie. I, I, but I, I like to <inaudible> as well, but you know, she was coming through. Yeah. 5 (10m 60s): It looks the same as well. Like I'm like, she does not look different as a whole, which I love 3 (11m 4s): There's this wild conspiracy, Siri, if you really want to get into the weeds online that she actually is not like the version you're seeing of her now is a fake version of her. 5 (11m 15s): Like 3 (11m 18s): Yeah. Like sh there's something that like she died or she's like not, and then like, there's this new way you can get real in the weeds about it, but it's Oh, the fake one's name is Melissa. You can look her up. Yeah. It's wild. Like there's this whole like behind the scenes can yeah. Like a conspiracy theory about Avril Levine. 5 (11m 41s): Yeah. I had no idea. I've been believing a lie. What the heck? 3 (11m 45s): Yeah. You know, it's weird when you see the pictures and stuff, you're like, huh? That's very odd. 5 (11m 50s): So they do like the side by side of like HOD the floor and the Cottonelle, 3 (11m 52s): Then it's weird. Yeah, you should. Yeah. Just Google it or look at it on YouTube. It's pretty interesting. But anyway, so that's cool. So Avril Levine got you into music or made you interested in playing guitar and then dad taught you how to play guitar. Was he playing quite a bit in the house before you learned 5 (12m 16s): A little bit? My parents got like separated when I was 11. So for me, like music was amazing. Cause like going through like all of that obviously like is like rough on like any kid. But for me, like I feel like I, it didn't really affect me that much. And I think whenever I was like stressed or anything, like pick up, you can pick up the guitar and like mindlessly play something and that's like full, like calm me down. And I still do that to this day. Like you you're stressed by someone picking up the guitar for 15 minutes. You'll always feel better afterwards. I think 3 (12m 48s): Therapeutic for you. Yes. 5 (12m 49s): Yes. 3 (12m 51s): So when you learn guitar, are you writing songs right away or playing? Trying to learn covers? Like how did your, 5 (13m 1s): So I like would just learn covers. I would land covers. I was in my school talent show. I was finding my first performance in music was when I was 11 with three of my friends singing, no guitar, just singing, seeing the YMCA and my school talent show. I don't know who the hell, let us think. That was a great idea. And like why my parents were like, go do that. We didn't win. However, a couple years later I got better at the guitar. I went back and I sang a Taylor swift song. I sang you belong with me and our whole talent show. The last year they had me back as a judge. So that was, that was pretty neat. Like in school, like everyone knew, like I was the music going on. 5 (13m 42s): Like I'd bring my guitar, like towards the end of school, when I was probably like 16, 17, I bring my guitar in at lunchtime. And like in the classroom it would be like legit high school, musical vibes. Like I just be playing like full chords and I'd be like, all right, let's try and sing as many songs as we can over these four chords. And like all my friends would be singing. So that was, I was like, there was always music around, but I started putting my covers on SoundCloud because I didn't have any experience already writing songs. I had a couple, like when I was 16, 17, like a couple of songs I've written, but not really writing with anyone else, but that's actually how I ended up moving over here because of like my son, Clyde, that was literally songs recorded on my iPhone uploaded. 5 (14m 29s): And yeah. Do you want me to tell you that now? Like how, 3 (14m 30s): Yeah. I want to know all of this. This is so super fast. 5 (14m 34s): I was living in England, like fast-forward, I'm like 17 living in England and I'm like, all right. I really, you know, I want to do this, but I don't know anyone in the music industry I'm in bombing of England so far away from LA and or everything's happening. I'd I'd come here on holiday, like once a year, like with my dad and my sister. I 3 (14m 53s): Know it's like, 5 (14m 54s): Yeah, yeah. Come to LA. Cause my dad loves LA as well. He loves music and entertainment. So like we just come over here just on holiday and just like a couple of days, but it was always pretty bitter sweet because you know, I'm coming to this place, surrounded by everything I want to be doing at music and entertainment. And then I would just leave again and go back home, back to school and it'd be like, I'd be like, so gutted. There was something about just being here that made me feel like really just like happy and inspired. I think it was just being around like that energy of people creating. So fast forward to when I was four, we at 17, we came back here on holiday for the Beverly Hills hotel and I thought, you know what? 5 (15m 39s): I have to try something different this time. Like I'm at this hotel, there's gotta to be someone here that does music. Well, like, you know, it's a famous hotel. Like I want to try something. So I don't Instagram. And there's a feature which was a time you could look and see who else is taking pictures in your location just by searching like the geotag. So I looked and I saw that this guy had just posted a picture, like two or three hours prior clicked on his page. It said he was a talent manager. And I was like, okay, maybe if I follow this guy and like a couple of his pictures, he'll go to my Instagram, whether it was a link to my SoundCloud and my plan, he followed me back, like within an hour, asked to get coffee. 5 (16m 20s): I brought my dad with me. My dad was like, what the hell? Like some random mom wants to come. Like I was like, just come with me. And then he is the one who ended up getting me signed to my first publishing deal. And then a year later I moved to LA, 3 (16m 34s): Oh my gosh, that's insane. Which 5 (16m 37s): Is insane. Like gives me like goosebumps still. Cause I'm like, if I would've gone on a different day or just like looked at a different time, I never would have seen that picture. I never would have, you know, maybe never would have made that connection. And then would I be living here now? 3 (16m 50s): Right. I mean, what if you wouldn't even thought to do that? Right. I mean, look on the geotag and see who else was posting pictures. That is, that's a brilliant idea. I've done a million of these or over a thousand of these interviews. And I've never heard that one before. Oh Yeah. That's a good one. That's it that's really good. 5 (17m 7s): It was honestly pure frustration of just being like, okay, I have to try something. And I was like, I'm just going to try this. And yeah, I feel like, thank God it worked. 3 (17m 18s): So he, this manager went to your SoundCloud and then what Calls you and says, Hey yeah, 5 (17m 25s): Like he's actually wasn't he was my first manager. We don't work together anymore, but he was like, Ashley English had lived in LA for like 20 years. And I was like, Hey, like would love to meet you. I've listened to your SoundCloud, like your voice. I think I could, you know, like help. So met up with him, my dad. And then like two months later he was back in England. I went to a Starbucks and met him. And I like had one of my friends, like at the Starbucks too, like in disguise, like just in case, you know, 3 (17m 54s): It's 5 (17m 54s): Super young. So my friend was there and I was like texting how it went. I'm like having a meeting and he was like, look, come to LA for three months. I want to introduce you to some people. And like, you know, do a couple of sessions and like, we'll just see how it goes. So I did, I came to LA for three months, stayed on an air mattress when I was 18. Like at this guy's house who ended up was my manager at that point. And he introduced me to a couple of people who offered me a publishing deal at the end of the three months. And then they're like, all right, you know, do you, if you want to do this, you, you have to like move here. And they sponsored my visa. And then, Yeah. 3 (18m 35s): Wow. And so you must've had original songs up on SoundCloud at this time too, or? No. 5 (18m 41s): Okay. So I had a couple of original songs and the guy was introduced to, is a guy called Anthony sealer who is like SVP of in his group. And he was like, look, I really like your voice. I, you know, I went to his house with my manager and I sang like five covers on the guitar, like one original song. He was like, I want to see what you can do if you're actually with a producer. So he set me up with a producer called Daniel Heath who did all the Londonderry stuff, forgets fee and stuff for her first record. And I'm terrified because I'd never written a song with anyone else that alone, someone that has written with blonde over it. 3 (19m 17s): Yeah. Or even a terrified, I bet going to this guy's house to play for him. He's, you know, the senior vice president for Interscope. And he's like, alright, here's a guitar. Show me what you can do. 5 (19m 29s): I suppose he came to my show at the Wilton five days ago and we're talking about that moment and he still has the footage from the GoPro. So we're have to like for that together somehow 3 (19m 38s): That's insane. And you put the wheelchair. That's huge. Wow. Okay. That's incredible. 5 (19m 44s): But yeah. So like what was I saying? Oh yeah. So go to go to the session lawnmowers producer. And they're like, if you do well, we'll offer you a publishing deal. So no pressure. So I'm thinking, Oh my God, all right. Well, I have to, I can't mess this up. I go to the guy's house. We worked together and we wrote a song in four hours and it's great. And they love it. And then for me to do 3 (20m 7s): Wow. 5 (20m 8s): And then the rest is history from that. 3 (20m 11s): So you just stayed in LA after that 5 (20m 13s): Stayed in LA started doing, you know, I did like hundreds of sessions wrote a thousand songs that no one's going to hear, but just, you know, went through the, went through the rinds to unwell, like stripes of like a songwriter. And I'd always wanted to be, you know, I came across like wanting to be an artist, but everyone just kind of saw me as a songwriter, which was kind of annoying, but I was like, all right, like I'll just, you know, I'll do sessions. I'll do you know what everyone wants me to do? Doing all these sessions for years and years. And then four years ago, a DJ called me trash. He received a folder of 200 demos, like from different singers, different producers. 5 (20m 54s): And he told me afterwards, he said, yeah, he went through all of them. He only like two of the songs which were mine. And he was like, find out who the hell Daisy is. And then invited me to his house. We worked on a bunch of music and he is the one who first wanted me on a record as an artist, not as a songwriter writing for someone else. He was like, I can't find anyone's voice that I liked more than, than yours. So can you be on the song? And then that was the first official release I had. 3 (21m 23s): Wow. Was that like, 5 (21m 25s): That was amazing. Cause like that's what I wanted for like the longest time. So for someone to ask me that I was like, absolutely. And then that kind of helped open everyone else's eyes or I'm in to say, oh, okay. We can see you as the artist as well. Now he's always kind of annoying. It's like, why does it take, you know, why can't you see it before it happens? But sometimes people have to like see it before they can jump on board with it. 3 (21m 50s): Sure. And what was it like working then with Tommy trash? Was there a song written or did you have to write the whole top line for it? Or how did that work? 5 (21m 57s): There was one song written I'd written with one of my writing partners that had kind of developed with at that point, Patrick Cottman. Yeah. It was just a demo over like a loop beat. And that went on to be the song sinners that I put out with Tommy went to the studio and kind of, he produced the up and he was asking me for my opinion, which was really cool because prior to that, I'd literally just been like fly on the wall, some writer, you know? And then since then we went on to like have a bunch of songs together. We have like three or four songs together and he was a great mentor and friend. And just like in like helping me to believe in myself 3 (22m 35s): And then you ended up reasonably enough reaching or re releasing the songs of your own. Right. So then you go from now you're releasing songs with, you know, different artists to now you put out a song of your own. I found you as the first one you did. 5 (22m 48s): Yes. I find you is the first song. And that was definitely like a long time coming because fast forward to, you know, after the Tomi trash stuff, I was now writing songs for myself, but trying to figure out what is my sign. Like I'd been on loads of DJ featured songs where, which is amazing, but they already have their side and I'm kind of fitting into that box. So it was like, what am I record sound like? And that was honestly three, a period of trial and error of writing different drummers, like took like a ton of time, 3 (23m 20s): But it was 5 (23m 21s): Really, oh, sorry. 3 (23m 23s): I was just going to say, cause you're yeah, like you said, you're, you've been an artist on these other people's songs, but their sound is there sound like, you know, Tommy trashed his own, they're their own sound and then you're just adding to it. Right. And then now you're like, okay, what is, what does Daisy sound like? What is my record going to sound like? 5 (23m 42s): Exactly. And at the same time, like I was, you know, going into it with hippie sabotage, which I can, yeah. I can tell you kind of how that came about. So that was cool. So we have the same kind of management network and there were like my manager, Ryan Rodriguez, he was like, oh, like, you should go over to the hippies house and just meet them. And she know like, see if you guys get on. So I was like, oh, okay. I just learned to drive the week before because living in England, like I didn't drive. So I took three driving lessons. I passed my test and there, and then I was on my way in my 3 (24m 15s): Car. I was like, 5 (24m 17s): It's so easy. The first time I drove on the freeway was driving to their hives. So I'm terrified. I'm terrified. But I was like, I have to go to their high. So like 3 (24m 28s): Not only that you're on the other side of the road. Right. I mean, yeah. 5 (24m 32s): Oh yeah. So it was a whole host of things made it there safely, but there's a funny story to this. I'll tell you, let's say for me, we go on a super, well, what, we ended up writing a song called chasing the wild, which they went on to then release. And they were like, Hey, like we're going on tour in three weeks. Do you want to come on tour with us? And just sing that one song during us out. They literally were like, we're going in like two weeks. Do you want to come? I was like, okay. So they're like, okay, can you come back here tomorrow? And we're going to take some pictures for the cover off and we'll put the song on SoundCloud and then two excited, like can come out and do it fast forward to the next day they lived in this area called silver lake, which is really, I just learnt how to drive. 3 (25m 17s): Yeah. I'm from Southern, I'm from San Diego. But yeah, but for people that don't understand, yeah, very hilly. 5 (25m 26s): So I pull up to the high school, excited to take pictures and I crashed into that car Crash into that parked car. You can imagine, you can imagine the panic I'm sitting in my, my car, which was like brand new, which I was also stressed out about it. I was like, oh my God, like damaged my call. I'm damage that car. And now I'm sitting outside their house with 20 minutes in my car, like freaking out crying. Like, what am I going to tell them? I've ruined everything. They're going to hate me. No more tool. How am I going to tell my manager? Like, I've crashed it. You know, I eventually make it in the highest. And I say, guys, I don't know how to tell you this, but I've crashed into your car and they just start laughing. 5 (26m 11s): And I'm like, why are you guys off? And they're like, oh, that cars aren't moved for two years. We don't, it doesn't even walk anymore. We don't cash. And I'm like, thank God. 3 (26m 21s): I'm going to ask if you, if you started the conversation with that or you did the pictures and you're like, Hey guys, 5 (26m 28s): I went in and was like, look, I've crashed into your pot call. Like, I'm sorry. So they didn't care. Which was amazing. And we actually wrote a song about it called crash in that day. So it was 3 (26m 38s): Like awesome 5 (26m 39s): Story. But so since, since that moment we've been best friends. Like I run a lot and like one of the brothers, Jeff, he comes running with me all the time. And since then I've gone on tour with them, like kind of every year, always kind of just coming out, doing one song during the SF, which was also bittersweet because, you know, I'd see, they would have an opener every time and I'd be like kind of jealous, like, oh, I 3 (27m 4s): Want it, but 5 (27m 6s): I didn't have, you know, I just had a couple of DJ songs I'd done. And I had like 200 songs that kind of sounded all over the place that, you know, not a solid body of work. So fast-forward to 2019, we're on tour or a week into tour. We just have got to new Orleans and we find out our entire tour is canceled because of COVID, we're all like stressed, freaking out, come home. But I ended up being a massive blessing in disguise because in that like year and a half, I sat down with my producer and we made a bubble. We worked together every day and we finally created like a body of work, like 20, 25 songs that were the best we'd ever done and super proud of and actually had discovered my son. 5 (27m 52s): And that ended up being like, you know, I find you was the single from that, from that project that we had made and then hippies were like, come around to like, you know, this year they're like, Hey, like now you have a buddy of luck. We want you to be the opener. So it had, COVID not happened, you know, maybe that wouldn't have happened for me. So it's still silver lining silver lining of a very like stressful time. I feel like made the most of it and like came out better from that. 3 (28m 20s): Wow. Was there, like when you were trying to kind of discover your sound and you must've had like an idea of what you wanted it to sound like, I'm sure it wasn't like, all right, we're going to go with the country song and we're going to throw out like a hip hop song. Like, like when it came to, how long did it take you to really find what sound you were looking for? 5 (28m 39s): I think, well, for me, like I want to make music that I like, so I was like, okay, what, what office do I like, I love Leo. I love Hosey. I love the weekend. 3 (28m 49s): I love Halsy too. I live on everybody that you mentioned Taylor. So I'm like, oh man, like, these are like the people in subsets with 5 (28m 58s): Literally. So I was like, okay, I want to sign, like, if you mesh Ellie Golding Hosey with the weekend, like, what does that sound like? Dark pop. I have a pretty, like, kind of soft, sweet tone to my voice. What does it sound like if someone would, that sort of tone is singing about the things that weekend, but singing about any kind of have to, like, you hear it and like, oh, that's sweet. And then you like, actually listen and you're like, wait, what did she just say? That I kind of wants to do that like low key shock factor. So I was like, okay, like to my producer, I was like, this is what I want it to be. And then we kind of, you know, what's done already and add, there is already kind of old through like, how can we like do that, but put like our tip on it. 5 (29m 43s): And that's how we got to, I find you, it was like the first one sided on the guitar and then he built it up and then that evolved into then having the song, scan all the others ready to go. 3 (29m 55s): Yeah. It was a scan. It was the most recent one that you've put out. Correct 5 (29m 58s): In, yeah. Skin is the most recent song featuring Maki BC, which was awesome because I've been a fan of him for a long time. And like, when I was like, first here, like driving around with my friends, I'd be like, oh, like we tell them occupy AC, I'd be like, I want to have a song with him one day. And then he worked with my producer TK Kian day and he heard a couple of my songs and he was like, oh, do you think she'd want to do a song with me? And like ask my roommate. So I'm like, yeah. I was like that, that was a pretty weird, like full circle movement. 3 (30m 31s): That's incredible. And then, so you have more, obviously more songs and is there going to be like, like you have a record coming out, I would imagine of some sort of body work. 5 (30m 42s): So the next record I have coming out is in April, April 15th. And it is actually like a cover is actually a lady Gaga cover of her song. You and I, cause she did recently, she did a 10th anniversary ReWalk of the album and she wanted to make sure LGBT artists on the record because it was heavily inspired by that community. So she like her team reach out to like, my team were like, Hey, like, would Daisy want to do a song for this? And ended up not being on the actual album. So I think they kept it like major artists only, which fair enough. 5 (31m 23s): But they want me to do one and they're going to like give it support and hot playlists and be like the Spotify exclusive version of it, which was really cool. Cause I actually, I got to work with her guitarists who did like the original song with her and like he was, he reworked it kind of like for my voice and was like, all right, if this song came out today, what would it sound like? So it's a bit more like Scott, some more elements of like kind of the weekend in it and the production, which is like sick. So that is coming in April. 3 (31m 52s): That's exciting. Wow. So did you, she, her, her team reached out to yours when it came to, like, we're doing this thing with what Daisy be interested in singing a song and then did you get to choose the song? 5 (32m 4s): Yeah, so I looked through the whole thing and yeah, I was like, they let me choose. So I was like, you and I like, like that, I love that song. And I thought it would be cool too, to do that. And like kind of re-imagine what that would sound like, like today. Cause it kind of is like a kind of how as a country element to it, like in the song. So I'm like, all right, let's kind of take that out and like just make it more kind of like a doc pop song. 3 (32m 28s): What was it like working then with her producer? Was that like, oh my gosh, I love that. Or 5 (32m 34s): Yeah, it was, it was hot producer and hug guitarist 10 and it was incredible. Yeah. Going to the hardest, like I was so nervous at first I was like, oh my God, another thing, like, don't mess it up. Don't mess it up. Like it's got to go good. You know? And it went really well. And we ended up like afterwards, like I would hang out with them, you know, I still do like every couple of weeks we do a session and just write. And Tim actually for the last show in LA, he came out and played guitar with me on one of my last songs during my PSAP, which was a pinch. That was incredible. Like incredible. 3 (33m 14s): Wow. 5 (33m 15s): So it was really cool. And like now, like we're just friends, which is like awesome. And yeah, like I think just creatively to like be friends with people like that. It's great. Just to bounce ideas off them and yeah, just, it's pretty cool. 3 (33m 27s): That is really cool. How does your dad feel about all this, this happening with you? I'm so stoked. 5 (33m 33s): Yeah. I feel like he's super, super stoked. He always plays it. Cool. But then I like hear him or hear stories about how he's like gloating to his friends or like telling his friends about it. And I'm like, oh, I'm like, well, but like, cause like to me he's always very like serious and like business vibes. And then I can tell like he's stoked my whole phone and he's like I on my grandma all the time and I like tell her about it and yeah, the rule like there will happen 3 (34m 3s): And they're all in Birmingham still. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I mean to have your dad be so fascinated by Los Angeles enough to take you all there for holiday and everything, and then you're here and you're working with these people. I mean, lady Gaga is one of the biggest names in the world. So you can just say like, oh my, you know, my daughter's working with lady Gaga as a guitar player for a song and like that's so huge. 5 (34m 31s): No, it was pretty, really, really cool. My dad actually flew out to my show in New York, which was awesome. Cause he never seen, you know, and to, to describe it, but then to see it, he was having a blast. He was like dancing with my friends and like he was loving it. So 3 (34m 48s): That's cool. Did you like, like tell me about him being at the show then he came flying him in or 5 (34m 56s): He though he'd like, he was like, I'm coming. He like flew himself. He came there a couple of days before and like we're just hanging out in New York. We want it. And then like at Jack he was being really annoying. Like I was, everything was getting set up and like went to the back to get something. I come back he's on the stage, like with the microphone, like with like singing Well is going on. I don't even know what he was singing. I think he was saying bachelor boy, like a really old song. I don't know. Cause he used to sing in talent shows too. And like he would always sing that song, but he was loving it and then like we will take a, pre-show like short to healer together. And then during, during my, he was standing like in between the pit and the stage like here, like all my friends and like I had to stop going to that side of the stage. 5 (35m 46s): I was just kept like cracking up because they're all like going crazy. And I was like call focus. I can't focus. But they had, they had a blast how to laugh. 3 (35m 54s): That's amazing. That is awesome. So the next song coming out, like you said, is a cover, is that going to make your project or is it going to just be rolled out as more singles after the fact? 5 (36m 4s): Yeah, I think it's going to be just kind of rolled Rhoda as like a shingle, just, you know, something for people to like kind of different from the music I put out already just for someone else's pallet, it would suit it and just awesome to, to cover a song and like get the, okay. To do that from such an amazing artist. Like Gaga was like incredible. 3 (36m 23s): Oh yeah. I mean for her to Greenlight the situation and be like, yeah, like we want, we want this song. Like that's crazy. 5 (36m 30s): Yeah. And I know she's like heard it and like likes and stuff. So like that was crazy. And then after that, then we're going to put my project, which is called the highs, which is going to have, I find you on a skin and three brand new songs that have been performing on tour. But no one's actually been able to properly hear. Yeah. 3 (36m 51s): Okay. And there's, well, there's some themes behind the record as well. 5 (36m 56s): Yeah. So kind of the highest is kind of just the first two songs are about like being like young being in a new place and like falling in love and kind of being reckless and always say like making like bad decisions, but like good memories. Because I think when I came here like so young by myself, like I definitely did that. And also just about like the highs of being in terms of like the highs and the lows, the highs of being in a new place and like 3 (37m 25s): How 5 (37m 26s): Country a new culture, not, I knew two people and I've moved to, I knew my manager and the people that offer me a publishing deal. That was it. I didn't have any, I didn't have any friends. My only friend was my manager at the time who was like 55. That was my only friend. I didn't know anyone. So yeah. But the highest of being in a new place, but also like the nice, not naive, but like just kind of not overthinking it because I think how did I over-thought anything, maybe I would have talked myself out of doing any of it. You know, it was kind of more just like following that passion gut instinct and just like letting that be the driving force and you know, odds are, I shouldn't have made it or I shouldn't be living here right now, but like older Alton living life is living life. 5 (38m 19s): So 3 (38m 21s): It's 5 (38m 21s): Fine. But that 3 (38m 23s): Amazing. Well, I love what you're doing so far. I can't wait to hear this lady Gaga cover and congratulations on the tour. That's huge. 5 (38m 29s): Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you for having me. This is great chat. Like it's cool. Like talking through it from stop to now. Like I have a smile on my face for them. Like, wow. Like I still like, I'm so stoked that I'm doing what I'm doing right now. 3 (38m 42s): That's so awesome. I have one more quick question. I want to know if you have any advice for aspiring artists. 5 (38m 49s): Yeah. Okay. I think especially in today's climate of like fast music, like, you know, like quantity of equality, I think don't just kind of catered to that culture of it because you should, you know, make music, you're proud of make music you like, but make on your own timeline. There's a bunch of people that were, you know, were saying to me, oh, like you're rolling on tool. Like, but you only have two songs. I like, that's kind of weird. Like you should have all your music high and I'm just like, I don't want to rush based around like anyone else's timeline. I kind of want to put it. I like when, when I want to put it, I then kind of, I think just like taking advice, but also trusting yourself.