BiB: New Translations – "Just Make It Happen": The DIY Secrets That Got Them Signed

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What is going on? It is Adam. Welcome back to Bringing It Backwards podcast where

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both legendary and rising artists tell their own personal stories of

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how they achieve stardom. On this episode, we had a chance

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to hang out with Isaac and Oliver of the band New

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translations over Zoom video.

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Oliver was born and raised in Kentucky and Isaac grew up

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with Ben who was not on the call. But Ben and Isaac grew up together

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in Chihuahua, Mexico at after high school they moved to the United

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States and Isaac ended up attending the same

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college as Oliver. So they met Orientation day freshman year

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and started playing music together. We hear about how the band formed,

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how they were able to build a huge fan base here in

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Nashville. They talk about the album Vacation and all about

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this brand new album as well. You can watch the interview with

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Isaac and Oliver and myself on our Facebook page and YouTube channel at bringing It

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bringing. It backwards with new translations.

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Backwards

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bringing it back.

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Hey, how are you? I'm doing great. How's it going?

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Fr? I'm good, man. I'm good. Thanks so much for doing this.

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Yeah, thanks for having me, man. Of course.

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I'm Adam and this is about you and your journey in music

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and let's talk about the band and the album and everything else you have

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going on. Oh yeah, Sounds good, man. Cool, brother.

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So first off, I read the. Are you originally from Nashville? The

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band started in Nashville. Right. Band started. It's

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a long story. I'm from Kentucky, Muhlenberg County,

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John Prine's Paradise. Oh, hell yeah. Nice.

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And it was around 20,

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21 is when us as a. As

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a five piece kind of found each other in

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Nashville. Okay, so you moved from Kentucky to

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Nashville before the band started. Yeah. Well, I'll give

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you the. The abridged version here. Okay. So

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Isaac and Ben. Isaac's are guitar and synth

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player. Sure. Who is trying to. It looks like he's trying to get

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into the meeting he might have joined. I

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will start at the beginning. Isaac is the guitar synth player. Ben is the bass

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player. They grew up together in Chihuahua, Mexico. Their parents,

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their parents were missionaries and so they, they,

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you know, grew up together. Essentially. And then

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when they graduated high school,

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they splintered off and went off into the US

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and that's where I met Isaac. I met Isaac on the orientation

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of college at Western Kentucky University.

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It was the summer. Oh, wow. Okay. Classes had even started.

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And we were going to school for musical theater.

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And he would always work on music and would

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always tell me about his friend, but then. And who's really good at

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production, and we would just mess around, you know, essentially. We were both

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trying to do the acting thing for a long time and

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lived in New York for a bit. And then we both lived in Memphis working

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for a professional theater there. And that's when we kind of lost

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the love for acting and musical

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theater and kind of just fell into this. We were just having a lot

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of fun making music and I was singing and writing lyrics

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and he's a multi instrumentalist wizard. And

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so we. But we both sucked at production, you know, and so we would

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take our stuff to Nashville, drive from Memphis to Nashville and

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work then on producing it. And that's when it kind of formed 2018

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as a. As a three piece. And then

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we all just made the conscious decision in 2020 to move to

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Nashville and just give it a shot. We had no clue what we were

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doing. We didn't know anything about the industry or the business and.

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But we just liked making music. So we did that and we wanted to play

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it live. And so we found Andres and Philip.

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Philip's our drummer. Andreas is our second guitarist and keyboard

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player. And we just hit the ground running

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from there. And that was. We were looking in the van

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on the way to our show and we were

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trying to find like when it actually started because we. We couldn't even remember.

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And it was in. In May of. Of 21, we played

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our first show. First show. Well, you guys have obviously had

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a ton of experience on stage. I mean, going from musical theater

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and acting and in that world to. I think that's. I mean, you

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watch your guys live sets and it's insane that

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coming out as a live band, I'm sure. Wasn't that. That was probably the

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easiest part hard for you? Well, yeah. I mean, it's a different.

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It's a. There's there's intense differences and intense

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similarities and we tried to lean into the similarities

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of it. Sure. Which is like, when crafting your set,

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you know, you've got an hour. There needs to be a beginning, you need to

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set the tone. There's got to be a climax, like three fourths the way

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through. And then like A denouement at the end of it

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all. So that. That was always kind of fun. We've leaned into the

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theatrics, usually in. In

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matching uniforms and just. Sure. You know, treated. Treating it.

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Treating it like a show and not just five dudes on stage

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playing. I love that. And I think that's such a huge thing that not

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many bands do especially. Or bands that are early on. It sounds like you guys

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have done that from the beginning. Like, we're just gonna. This is it.

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Getting their money's worth. Yeah. I love it. Isaac. What's up, brother?

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Sorry, your name was your thing. We're

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all the same person. I doubt it.

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Well, good to meet you, brother. Well, yeah, we just kind of. Good to see

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you, man. Yeah. Your guys's story is a band.

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I'll ask you real quick, Isaac. So you grew up in. In

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Mexico. Okay. So you grew up in Chihuahua, Mexico, and

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then you moved to the States? Yeah. Yeah. So me and

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Ben, who plays bass and does some, like,

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production work for us, we. I grew

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up with him. I've known him since I was, like, 11. His mom was my.

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Was our fifth and sixth grade teacher. And yeah,

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we. We grew up in a evangelical Christian,

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like, mission organization. Okay. Which is pretty weird.

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And then, yeah, I graduated high school

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and then college. Literally my first day of college is where I met

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Oliver. And, yeah, he. He kind of showed

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me the world. I was a very naive

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person, I would say. I was gonna ask you about it as far as, like,

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music goes and, like, how do you get into music as a kid?

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Or are you only playing, like, Christian music or, like,

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how does that work? And, like. Oh, yeah. I mean. Yeah, like, I. I was

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only exposed to, like, Christian music growing up. So,

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like, you know, Switchfoot, that was my. That was my jam.

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But it was in college when I really started listening to bands like

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the national or, like. Yeah,

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just bands outside of the religious world. And I was like, oh, my God, this

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is amazing. And that's something that I

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think Oliver and I bonded over because he grew up Jehovah's Witness,

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so just. Yeah. Getting into the music world that, you know,

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outside of. Of our religious confines. Sure.

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With that, like, moving here, like, were you always interested in playing music

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or you wanted to do musical theater also? It sounds like. Did you go for

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musical theater? Yeah, I mean, I didn't know what I wanted to do.

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I started out as an English major in college.

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Met Oliver. He took me to my first, like, audition

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for theater. So I was. I always danced around the major.

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I Was never actually a theater major, but I was in musicals all

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the time. All around. Was usually, like, the lead and I was

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usually like tree number two in the background.

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Yeah. So that was. That was a lot of fun. But I learned a lot.

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And I learned a lot about how musicals were written mostly,

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which was kind of what I nerded out about. And I actually wrote one

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musical in college. But that. I think that translated a

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lot into, like, how we. Yeah, like what we were saying, like,

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developing the live show. And like, you know, there's character

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arcs, there's themes, there's like,

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I want songs. There's like. How do you place these

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songs in an order that makes sense? Yeah.

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When you guys, like, for the album, do you. When you write, like, the

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new album, was it thought of that way too, or is it totally different? Like,

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do you think of it as like, okay, we gotta write, tell the story, or

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there's characters throughout the album or not at all? Well,

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it's interesting because we went in thinking we were going to do

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quasi concept album and left with a

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completely different. Different idea. And I think,

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you know, you always have something in your head

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and then, you know, the music and where it goes and the. The

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lyric changes it. You. You slowly start to real. I think

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just being open to being like water and letting it

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all move around you and not fighting anything that feels right,

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I think is. Is the way to go. But we definitely. We always

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aim, you know, with that. With that lens

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of. It's this. It's. It's more than. Than just songs,

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you know, or stories within the songs. But there's a, you know, a bigger picture

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within. But it ended up not going that route.

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No, it didn't fully tell a full story when she finished. Or

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it's in the way in. In the. In the way of like a

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concept out. Yeah, it didn't do that. But I think where we landed

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is stories that are just more grounded

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in reality, in the world that we're in, and an

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authenticity that I think our theatrics kind of shy

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away from sometimes. Or we. We keep authenticity

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or, like, vulnerability, I would say, at arm's length because

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we're playing these characters or. Sure, I'm an

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alter ego on stage. I'm not a crazy guy in the gas

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station, you know, I just. Just a guy, you know.

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So I. I think it was a. It was a fun

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exercise and a challenge to.

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To kind of rise above that and just get down to what. What are you

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actually saying, you know, in the song. And Eve

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Rothman was the producer on that. He was a great,

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you know, kind of ringleader of that circus for

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those three weeks in LA that we, that we were tracking out there.

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He. He kept us honest and, and on track and

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under budget. So that's good. There you go.

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I love it. So you. It sounded like

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2020, you all decide to move to Nashville and really

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take the band seriously. Was it.

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Was there like a milestone or something that occurred that made you have. Make

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that decision? Or like, were you just over the whole theater thing and you're

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like, this band, we. We can make this band work? Or did you have a

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song that people are giving you a lot of praise on or like, what kind

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of. Really? Yeah, like you just. It

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was trigger. It was. I mean, for me, I think

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Isaac and I were on, on, on different paths at that time,

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but I was, I was so done with musical

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theater and basically the idea that you have to

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wait. You go to countless auditions and you're waiting for

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permission to do your job. You're waiting

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for somebody to be like, okay, you. You sound right, you look right, you fit

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the costume and now you do it and you do it for two months and

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it's great. And then you're back to trying to find the next thing.

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And you're trying to find the next thing. Music. To me, whenever I

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felt inspired, I could write a song, you know, whenever I.

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And, and that's obviously grown to where it is now. Whenever you want to

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play a show, just make it fucking happen. Sorry if I can't. No, you can.

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You can. Cuss. Okay, great. Just make it. Just make,

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just make it happen. And, and it puts the, puts the power in you

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as the artist to. Yeah, I guess you could say

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the same for theater. You could. You know, you can write your own thing and

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host your own show, but that's such a. It's.

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Yeah, it was more soul sucking than it was

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giving. Can't imagine the amount of people you have to get involved with

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that and where guys can get together and just,

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and just. And it felt right. It felt right at the time. Yeah,

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the timing felt good. The

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band was always kind of like this casual thing, I think for

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us and. But I mean, I, I had, I started

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working on another musical project and was out in la

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and I mean, I was, it was, it was fulfilling but

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like I was doing like corporate gigs so, you know, playing Pursuit

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Ties. That didn't give a. About what you were doing. So

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like the band was really calling me back

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in my mind. I was like, damn, I I. I'm. I

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feel like I'm not in the right thing right now. And

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then Covid happened, and then

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Ben and Oliver started, you know, making moves,

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like adding people to the bands.

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I was like. They would send me pictures of them rehearsing with other people. I

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was like, what the fuck is happening? So

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I was in la and I just told my girlfriend at this. I'm like, I

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gotta go. I gotta. I gotta get back.

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And I did. And I think it was. We

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would. We would write songs, Ben and I, and bring

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them to a production fruition. Be like, this is the one that's gonna make

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Isaac movies.

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This is gonna be the one.

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Yeah. I mean, okay. So then you eventually move to

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Nashville, and then that's when the band starts. And you talked about playing your first

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show in 21ish. Yeah.

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And then from there was it just. You just kept playing around town. I'm. I'm.

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I'm close to Nashville. I live south Thompson Station area,

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but I'm from San Diego, so I know the. The move from LA to

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Nashville. It really all

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just. It again. We knew nothing about how any

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of this. We didn't know how to book a show. We didn't know

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what anything meant that what we were doing. But it's.

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It just all kind of happened rather quickly where we played

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a. It was a New Faces night at

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the OG basement. Okay. And that's like

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four bands. You get 20 minutes and it's a free show, and you're just cycling

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in and out. But grimy. Micah Grimes, who

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owns Grimy Records in the Basement east, was running the sound

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that night. And the man was just enthralled with

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what he saw. And so, you know, it

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grew from. From that to the OG and OG

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Basement headline. They did a free Friday thing outside the

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Tomato Fest, supporting the Basement. He slots headlining

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Basement East. It just. It. He was very

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instrumental. Gil and Grimy both were instrumental

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and just foot having

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footholds for us in Nashville. Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean, from there do you, do you start like trying to play

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outside of Nashville? I mean, obviously you build a fan base here, but

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outside of that, I mean, you, you signed a Warner Records. I mean you, you

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guys have accomplished so much and just getting from

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Nashville, getting success in Nashville itself is huge and

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hard to do with the amount of talent and people here. But then, yeah, taking

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it to the next level, like how do you go from,

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you know, just playing East Nashville to getting the deal?

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You, you literally Just do it.

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You just do it. I mean, it was, it was, it was crazy.

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You know, we were playing our first out of town shows I think in like

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Atlanta and like Nashville is a great hub for,

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you know, the southeast market. You can kind of bop around

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in that way. And so Phil, our

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drummer, had worked as a booking agent and

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so thank God he knew exactly. He knew how to reach out to people.

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He knew what a hold meant. He knew how to, you know,

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orchestrate these things to get us and you

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know, playing to 20 people in Atlanta turned

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into 40 people, turned into 100 in Charleston.

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You know, I think the live show being what it is,

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a focus of ours, we just literally had to get in front of

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people to do it. And we,

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we kind of learned how to be a self sustaining

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business model in a lot of ways, like with the booking of the

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shows. And then Ben, he's, you know, he's worked on the road before, so he

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knew how to tour manage us and we all kind of were able

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to take on those roles that usually you hire

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outside sources to do. And I think that,

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and everyone was pretty good at their job. So I think that really kind of

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helped us move to that next level of, of

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creating value for ourselves. That I think is,

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that's like the missing piece, I think with a lot of bands, however

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good they are, like, how can you, you know, be

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a working machine within in the

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band? Yeah. Well, I think what you guys did is so cool

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and like, it's so, it's like traditional if you were a band in the

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90s to like, you know, get, get

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the songs, get the live show and then go out and play

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to 20 people in Atlanta and then 40 next time.

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And that just, that grassroots way to do it is just, it's, it's so different

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now because somebody, somebody could get a tick tock tok hit for two minutes and

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then get everyone on their face and then they're on the

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show and maybe five people show up because just streams and

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stuff don't turn into ticket sales. I think what you guys are all doing is,

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is such, is the way to, to really build a true fan. Base,

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like longevity in that way. I, I, I totally agree.

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And you know, maybe things would be different if we were good at TikTok, but

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we are all individually so terrible at social media. We

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try, you know, but we're,

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we're definitely not in our early 20s. So

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I, I think it, I mean, we opened for Rainbow Kitten.

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Surprise. Yeah. And I think that that was

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important for our manager to see, you know, the

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label, to see the, you know, the merch sales afterwards and just the

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lines that we had. It's just if we can get in

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front of people, then I think

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we have a way of connecting to

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not even a specific genre of music, not even a specific

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demographic or age group. It's just. I feel as

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though our message of community

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is inclusive to everyone from, you

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know, 8 to 80. It's. It's a universal experience

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and I. I really love that. And we strive to expand that

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every show, whether there's 10 people there or 3,000

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people there. Yeah, I love it. And you guys have. You're on tour now, right?

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You're playing LA tomorrow? Oh, yeah, we're in. Isaac. Where

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are we? Seligman? Arizona. Oh, man.

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Arizona. Route 66.

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Yeah, but we're. We've been driving from Hickory, North

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Carolina, which has been quite the drive,

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but we'll get into LA tonight and then. Oh, man. So you've been. You

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left. You're in Arizona now from North Carolina.

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Yeah. Oh, my God. Routing

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was a little weird, this one.

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But, you know, I think we're doing a good job

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staying sane and finding that we've got it down to a

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pretty nice routine now. There's not a lot of question marks

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of where we're staying. Shout out. Then our TM and bass

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player and production. So it's. It's.

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It's kind of just like punching into work to get to the show.

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Nice. Yeah, you're playing. You have some really cool venues on this tour, I

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saw. Yeah, the Echo

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been wanting to play that one for a while, so that's exciting.

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Right on. A lot of first markets for us, too. You know, we've.

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Nashville is good for that. Southeast, sure, but in the

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Northeast. But it's. It's hard to cross that. That

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great divide, you know? Yeah. I mean, brick and

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mortar in that line. You're playing San Francisco and

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the Mercury Lounge in New York. I don't know if you played there. Before, but

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that's once before. Yeah.

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Yeah. That's awesome. What about

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new music? I mean, the album didn't come out. It came out this year, but

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are you guys working on new stuff? And you just did that Audio Tree thing,

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right, for Spotify? Yeah, yeah, we did the. Did the Audio Tree.

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We just wrapped the second album,

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tracking. Oh, really? Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that was. That's

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the one with Eve Rothman and out of la, we. We literally left,

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you know, almost a month in the studio, got back,

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drove to Buffalo, played a festival, came back and now

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we're on this tour, so. Oh, my gosh.

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Yeah, it's just. It just feels like it just keeps going, which

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is good. That's. These are. These are good things. But.

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Yeah, so we've. We've got a new alb.

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I can't say when it comes out. Not because of a secret,

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because I just don't know. But we don't know. Yeah. Can you

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talk about it? Did you go in as a concept this time as well? Well,

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that. That was. Maybe I mixed the wires. Then

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earlier, Vacation, the album that came out. Yeah. This year

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we definitely went in. We went in as a concept, and

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this one we recorded, we went in with a whole sheet going

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in as a concept, and that's the one that changed, you know.

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So Vacation. Vacation went in as a concept and that ended as a concept.

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Yeah. Yes. Right. And then this. For this one, we had

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a concept, but all the songs that worked with that

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concept ended up getting cut. So then we were like, well, I guess the concept

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is no longer the concept. Yeah. But

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I definitely love where it lives. Yeah. It helped to

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have that in our minds because at least it gave us some kind of

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direction. At least you're trying to say something,

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and then in that process, maybe

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it changes, but at least you're in it now, which sometimes

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the hardest part is just to start, you know. Oh, I bet. Yeah.

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So this, though. So the new album is this one. Okay, now I got

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you. I figured. Yeah. Okay, cool. And it's a. It's a fun,

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you know, we definitely played with more organic

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sound, more acoustics and, like,

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live ox percussion and kind of just melding the

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worlds we're known for, like synth,

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you synth kind of action and electronic drums and stuff

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like that. It was. It was a fun. That was probably

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the coolest thing about the whole thing was just learning how to make the two

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work together and in a very Flaming Lips,

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Yoshini battles kind of way, you know. Rad.

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Oh, sorry. We're gonna ask something, Isaac. Sorry.

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Our. Our main challenge

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and project, at least me personally, is just how to build. Blend the

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worlds of, like, shoegaze with, like,

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disco dance and, like, get

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people crying while also dancing and staring at their shoes.

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So I think. I think we did a better job of it with this record.

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It definitely feels a bit more sober than the last record and a

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bit more mature, I would say a little. A little

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darker, but still at the same

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time more full of hope than I think the last record.

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So we're all really, really stoked on these Songs

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and. Yeah, can't wait for them to be. Out in the world. Are you

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playing any of them on this, on the road? No, that was

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the. I think we. We sneak, like, five

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minutes. We're opening on this tour, so we get. We get

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like, you know, five, 10 minutes of a sound check

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usually. And so we're trying to. To sneak in little. Little

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practices again. We left the album to then go

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straight to this tour, so there hasn't been a. Been a moment to. To really,

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like, reflect and fine tune, but no better time to practice than in

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front of. Front of people.

464
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We're definitely striving that by the end of the tour, we can get a couple

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of them on their feet. I love it. Awesome. Well, I appreciate both of

466
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you doing this today. Thanks for your time. Yeah, man, I

467
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appreciate you. Yeah. I do have one more question. I want to know if I

468
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need an answer from both you too. If you have any advice for

469
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aspiring artists.

470
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Aspiring artists? Yeah, I would go. I would go back to

471
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just do it. Make. Make it happen.

472
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There's. It's such a. A wild, wild west in the music

473
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world with the advantages and disadvantages of social media,

474
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but just find your community. Wherever you

475
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are, whether that's five people or 500 people,

476
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find that community and make it happen.

477
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Yeah, I would say, like, no,

478
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I mean, basic, but, like, no one else is gonna want it

479
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as much as you are. And so many people are

480
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gonna promise you things that if you leave it in their hands, it'll

481
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get taken care of, and it is never taken care

482
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of, or it's done in a way that is just not what you

483
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resonate with. So just do it yourself as

484
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much as you can. Yeah. And if people

485
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help you, that's awesome. But you can't expect them to want it

486
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as much as you do or care as much about it as you do.

487
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:21,580
Bringing it backward,

488
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bringing it backward, bringing it backward,

489
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bringing it backward, bring it backward,

490
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bring it backward.