BiB: Charly Reynolds: From Chick-fil-A to Country Stardom: How Hustle Beat Stage Fright in Nashville

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How's it going? It is Adam. Welcome back to Bringing It Backwards, a podcast where

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both legendary and rising artists tell their own personal stories

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of how they achieve stardom. On this episode, we had

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a chance to hang out with Charlie Reynolds over

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Zoom Video. Charlie was born and raised in Orlando,

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Florida and talks about how she got into music. Started off on piano

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at an early age, didn't love it, but moved on to guitar and

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started songwriting at an early age as well. In high school, she ended

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up releasing an album and played a bunch of shows locally around

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Orlando. When she graduated high school, her brother had

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moved to Nashville a few months prior. So Sophia moved to

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Nashville with her brother for a few months, got a job at Chick Fil A

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and was just trying to make it in this music

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industry. She talked about some of the early victories she had,

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how she ended up meeting people and meeting songwriters in Nashville,

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getting some jobs, playing on Broadway. She played at the Wild Horse

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Saloon quite a bit. She talked about releasing her first ep

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and all about the release of her brand new

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debut album, which is called off the Record. You

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Bringing it backwards. Bringing it backwards.

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Bringing it back. Bring it back.

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Bring it back. Hi,

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Charlie. How are you? Hey. I'm good. How are you? I

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am fantastic. Thank you so much for doing this. I appreciate

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it. Of course. Thanks for having me. Of course.

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So my name's Adam and this is all about you and your journey in music

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and we'll talk about the album and I know you're doing a tour for the

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album and yeah, chat about all that as well. Awesome. Yeah,

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that sounds great. Sweet. So always start off with

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kind of your origin story. Where were you born and raised? So

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I am originally from Orlando, Florida and I grew up

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like downtown Orlando and then. But I've been in Nashville for

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six years now. Okay, very cool. I'm in Nashville as well.

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Oh, nice. That's awesome. Yeah, I've been here only for about

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four years. Coming up on four years. Okay. Where are you from?

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San Diego, originally. I'm one of the. Yeah,

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one of the many that have moved out here from California. Hey,

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I don't believe you, though.

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Yeah. So Orlando. Wow. So obviously

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Disney kind of takes over the town there, huh? It really

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does, honestly. It's funny because, like, Orlando is a pretty

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small community, like downtown Orlando. But then Disney is like

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this huge tourist attraction, you know, like,

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that's only 20 minutes down the road. So it's just so funny,

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you know, it's a small town, really, but Disney is

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giant. Massive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, small town, but the

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amount of people coming there. Yes, all the time. Yeah. It's got.

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From all over the world. Yeah. Yeah.

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So you grew up in Orlando. Do. How do you get into music? Do you

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come from a creative household, a musical family, anything like that?

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I mean, my mom, she used to sing growing up. My

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dad, like, sings here and there and my brother also sings, plays the

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piano. So, like, everyone's just kind of musical.

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I loved Disney princesses growing up and I loved

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singing their songs and so that kind of

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started it. And then getting into country, my family listened to country

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music, but Taylor Swift was like my

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favorite when I was like 8 years old singing you belong with

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me and all. She's still one of my favorite now.

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And I like, loved, loved

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that music. I still do. But, yeah, it was just

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crazy. So I used to sing Taylor Swift and then you. Carrie Underwood

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and. Yeah. Then I just kind of figured out that

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I could actually try and do this as a career because I was going to

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go to college and be a news broadcaster.

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That's what I have wanted to do and. Oh, really? Like an anchor?

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Yeah, like a news anchor. Okay, that's cool. I mean, I started.

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I went to college for communications. I was on the terrestrial radio for a long

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time. And then. Oh, cool. This took over. So

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that's awesome. Yeah, I. I've.

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I've seen a lot of people that, yeah. Went into the news and all that

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thing, all that stuff. That's interesting. Yeah, I. I'm

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honestly glad that I didn't because I don't think I'd want to do that

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now. Sure. That's also.

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It's hard work. Like, I didn't know a lot about,

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like, what the news anchors all actually have to do. I thought they just delivered

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the news. I didn't realize they get the stories half the time. You know, it

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just depends. Sometimes.

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Stories and like, they run a lot of things. So

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when you have to try, I mean, you have to move right I mean, at

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least that's what it was for radio as well. It's like if you could get

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in. I mean, I grew up in San Diego. I was lucky enough to get

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a job there, but then I had to move to San Francisco for a job

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and then back to San Diego. And it's like that with.

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With. With news. It's not like you. I mean, some

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people do it right where you can get a job in the market that you

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grew up in, but a lot of time you got to move out and then

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try to get back or get to a bigger market. It's not like you can

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just start off in LA or New York or. Exactly. Yeah,

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exactly. So I'm glad I didn't take that route.

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But I moved here instead. I just kind of decided I could always

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go back to college. If I wanted to do that, then I could go back

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and do it. But I needed to move here now. So

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I moved to 18 and worked at

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Chick Fil A for the first year. I had no idea what I was doing.

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I didn't know really anyone, except my brother had moved here,

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like, two months before me. My older brother, just because he

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lived somewhere new and did he move to

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pursue music or. No, just to do it. Just to try out

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a new place. And so we moved. We lived together

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and for like, the first year

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or eight months or something, and he moved back home

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and I stayed in. I moved, you know, by myself

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and stayed here. Started singing downtown

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a little bit here and there, and the rest is kind of history.

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Wow. Okay. So just. Just to rewind a bit.

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You said your brother plays piano. Did you start off on piano as well?

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I did actually take piano lessons for, like, five years, but I didn't

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keep up with it, and I hated it when I was doing it. Although I

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regret that a lot. Which I hate to say that because my parents always told

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me that I would. Sure, I quit, but they finally let

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me quit. And, yeah, I wish I would have kept up with it, but I

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started playing guitar when I was 17. Okay,

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and what about, like, writing your own songs? I mean, to. To decide to

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not want to go to college and say, I want to pursue

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music as a thing full time. Like,

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you must have been getting some validation. Like, were you writing your own songs

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or were you playing places or people telling you, like, oh,

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you know, you should do this, Charlie. You're good at this. For sure.

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I was singing, like, everywhere. Anywhere that I could.

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I actually released an EP and an album in high school.

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Oh, wow. Yeah. Did some Big, like,

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release shows in Orlando for those. And that was

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super fun. Those albums are no longer out. They are not

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like, scrubbed them from the Internet. They're not my

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sound anymore at all. And just grown a lot

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since then. Obviously. It's been, like, 10 years ago, but

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so I did do that, and my parents were, like, super supportive of

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it, but we, like, had no idea what Nashville

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entailed. I only been here two times before I moved here, or two or three

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times. And we just thought, like, you move

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here, and then you're just, like, famous the next day.

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Some guys just, like, at the airport, like, oh, you

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okay? Here's your contract. Yeah. Like,

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we had literally no idea. Well, no one does. Right? I mean, it's such a

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hard thing. Yeah. To just. You're like, okay, I'm going to. I want to

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move to Nashville to pursue this thing. But

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how do you meet people? Like, how do you get in the rooms with people?

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So that's kind of. I'm actually curious about you and your stories.

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Like, so you're from Orlando. You're writing songs, you put an album out, you

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put some music out, you're doing shows there. And then you're

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like, okay, I want to move to Nashville to pursue this thing.

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You didn't know it. You knew your brother, but you didn't know anyone in the.

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In the industry or anything. Oh, I.

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So I really didn't. My mom's friend lived up here, and she connected

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me with a guy, Jim Brown. He's an artist. And

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so he, like, took me out and, like, at some of his

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shows back in Florida, actually, he plays a lot in Florida for

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him. So that was, like, kind of, you know, getting me to

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meet some people, some musicians, stuff like that. And then as far as

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writing and stuff, I had to just get out of my comfort zone and

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reach out to people on Instagram and, like, ask them to write with me

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or ask them to get coffee with me, and. Which

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was really weird to me back then because that just wasn't as

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normalized as it is now. Like, sure. I mean,

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you're like, hey, do you want to get, like, coffee and talk about music and

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this? Like, either, like, huh? Or like, yeah. You think that they're

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like, is she hitting on me? Or does she, like, like, what is this? You

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know what I mean? So weird. Like, so we're doing that,

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and. But I'm glad that I did, because it really, like,

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got my circle going. And then I was writing more, meeting more people,

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and it just kind of all took off after,

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like, you know, my writing took off with more people

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after doing that. So that's really. Instagram is really how I,

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like, started creating friends and music

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and everything. It's so weird. Wow. So how do you, like, what's

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your kind of first, like. Like, big moment or something that,

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like, I mean, moving here and then you said you're working at Chick Fil A

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and trying to meet people and write. Like, was there, like,

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what was kind of like, was there like a. Like a

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milestone or. Or was it like little victories, like things that kind of

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kept you going? Because I would imagine if nothing was happening. Yeah. For

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quite a period of time, you would have been like, is this the move? Like,

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maybe I do, like, go back to Orlando or try to get

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a job as an anchor. Go back to college for that. Like, what was

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kind of like the first little success or something that happened that

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maybe kept you moving forward? Yeah, I mean, the first three months

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of living here were really tough because all my friends, I was like,

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seeing them on social media go to college and meet all these friends and join

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the sororities and do all this fun stuff, and I'm just like, working at Chick

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Fil a full time, like, not really knowing anyone or having any.

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And so it was kind of. I. I actually

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toured UT Knoxville. Okay.

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After three months because I was like, maybe that maybe I don't want to do

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this. Maybe I want to do what everyone else is doing because, yeah, maybe I.

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Want to go to college. Yeah. I was like, this sucks. Like, I don't know

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anyone. But then me and my dad toured

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it and I loved it. But I was like, I am not giving up after

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three months of living here. Like, that is so dumb. Like,

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I'm not doing that. And so I

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stayed. And I think I really was, like, trying to learn social

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media and how to grow on there. And so,

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like, I think I hit. Was it 20k or

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10k? I can't remember. Still a lot, right? Yeah,

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I was working really hard on Instagram

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at that. Were you just posting a lot and posting, like, videos of

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yourself or like, how are you? Yeah, posting engaging,

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like on other people's posts. Like, just being

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really into engagement people. I check out

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my music, like random fans that I see on, like, other, you

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know, like Carrie Underwood's posts or whatever.

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And just like that was like a second full time job for me to

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grow because I thought it was really important, which it helped a lot.

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And so, like, hitting that 10k or 20k, whatever it was.

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After a few months of Living here was, like, big for me.

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And then also, I started playing at Wild Horse Saloon.

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Oh, wow. Okay. A year later. Yeah. And that was,

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like, a huge milestone for me. I loved playing there. Just, like, the

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opportunity to get to play there was huge.

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And so. Yeah. And then I just kind of. I don't know. It feels like

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a whole different life, to be honest. I ran Karaoke at AJ's

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Downtown on Broadway for a while, and that

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was really fun because I just got to meet people and

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musicians also. Whoever was down there singing and playing

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in the bar and kind of got pulled into that

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circuit a little bit. Yeah. Which. I mean, that's really where

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you kind of. I've heard people talk about these stories where you. That's where you

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kind of get in. Right. If you can get in downtown and you get a

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show at Wild Horse and you're. You're kind of, you know,

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a regular there, whatever, where they're hiring you to

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come back and play these sets, I mean, that could

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eventually lead into getting, like, more shows

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on Broadway. Yeah. Yeah. And I. I,

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you know, a few years later, I ended up playing at Miranda Lambert's twice a

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week. Wow. So fun. And

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I actually miss it so much. I loved playing there because it actually.

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I. And I always say this. I think every artist needs to

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play on Broadway for at least a couple of months because it really.

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Just for the practice and the experience of playing, and

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it helped me a lot. I used to get really bad stage

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fright. Not, like, horrible, but it would definitely take me

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a really long time to get comfortable on the

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stage, and I would have a lot of anxiety before going on stage.

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I just cared a lot. And performing on Broadway,

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you know, people. They don't care, like, what's going on. They just want to hear

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some good music or music that they like. And so I think it

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kind of just helped me not care as much and not put so much

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pressure on the performance being perfect every single

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time. Or, like, you know, if I mess up,

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it's fine. Like, it's not the end of the world. You mess up the words,

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no one cares. Like, just keep going. Stuff like that. It's

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just very. I don't know. You just can learn a lot

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playing down there, but I. Oh, yeah. And the people that are playing down there

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are all so talented. I mean, you have to know

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so many songs as well. Right? I mean, there's, like, a whole language that you

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have to learn. From what I've. From what I've heard is, like, knowing, like,

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number. Like, there's some number system. Right. That goes into, like, the.

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What? I, I, I don't know. It's beyond me. But

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what I still have to learn, the number system. I have not learned that yet.

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But. Singer, I would imagine

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it's a bit different, right, than, like, if you were just guitar guy that has

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to come in and play with multiple people because you're

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playing with new musicians all the time. Right. It's not. You don't have, like, your

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own band. It's, like, whoever's there at that time slot that you're

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at. Yeah. You jump up. Right. And start playing with them. Yeah.

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So it's weird. Like, most of the time, luckily, at Costa Rosa,

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we were able to have. It was like, me, Josh

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Raymond, and Dave Meyerino pretty much every time

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someone was out of town. But that also just depends. That's not, like,

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everywhere. It just. It just happened to be booked that

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way every time on schedule. And so luckily we were

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able to, like, do that and got really comfortable playing all together and, like, new

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songs. But it is. Yeah, it's hard, like,

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especially if I was playing with another girl, because there's only so many

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good girl songs, like, you know, that we both know.

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And so you kind of gotta, like, dig around and find ones to

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fill four hours of. Right, Right. Yeah. Because it's four

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hours of covers, essentially. Right? Yeah. I mean,

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sometimes people throw in their own original music. Were you doing that at all, or

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is it mainly just covers? I did. And that's, like, another thing that

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I've always recommended is, like, instead of

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going and playing as if it's just like, a Broadway gig, like, whatever, you're just

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making money, like, use it as an artist, like, to your

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advantage and, like, play some originals and really kind of make

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it, like, your show when you're on stage. That's what I

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did. And I would promote my new music and, you know,

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just get people excited about it, ask them to sing along, teach it to them

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when we're on stage and have them sing it back. Like, oh, that's smart. That's

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cool. Yeah. Yeah, it was really fun. And the only reason I stopped

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playing down there, really, is because I had vocal cord surgery

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and. Oh, wow. Yeah. And four hours is just

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a really long time for me. I

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think I could probably do it now. I mean, that's a long time for any.

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You're not. Unless, like, I mean, even, like, the Taylor

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Swift tour, she's doing, like, three hours, which is. But I mean, like,

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an additional hour, like, every time you're down there. Yeah,

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it's not normal. Right. I mean, it's not like if, like you don't go

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like, you know, Kenny Chesney isn't playing a four hour set,

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you know, most of the time on his tours or whatever. It's usually an hour,

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hour and a half. So to be doing four hours

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all the time and obviously that's great practice and

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everything else, but in the 100% what you want to

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do. Right. It's pro. It's not really that.

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Yeah. It's not something that's going to be. You're going to be doing all the

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time. No, for sure. It's. Yeah, like hardly anyone

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does does that. Taylor Swift is like the one that does three,

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but most people, you know, don't. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah. So that's why I stopped playing,

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playing down there. But I think I could probably handle it now doing a duo

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thing because that's like two hours. But yeah, it was

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fun. I really, really loved it. And I love the food there. I never got

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tired of eating there twice a week at Costco, the best

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Tex Mex in town, I swear. So. That's so funny.

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Yeah. So were you while you're doing the downtown stuff, like you're

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obviously writing your own music and, and, and pursuing

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your own artist thing kind of in alongside

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that because that's just like, okay, not only do I'm gonna play a bunch of

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covers, but I get to play my own songs. Like, at what point are you.

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I mean, it sounds like it's pretty recent that you stopped playing down there, but

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like when it comes to your own music, like are you in writing

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rooms and writing for other people right away or are you more. Are you trying

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to write your own songs and, and have people write with you for your

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own projects? Like how, how do you. What's like the next move

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for you there? And so I've always written pretty much for

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me and like in the room, I've always been the

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artist. But now after releasing this

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album, I mean, I don't need any more songs right now. Really.

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I've been writing for this for like a year. So I have

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like plenty of songs. But I'm not, you know, not saying that I

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don't want more songs. I always want to get more new songs. Sure.

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At this point I really want to try and get some cuts like with other

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artists just because also that's cool. Like I want to be like, I

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was a writer on that and we just got a cut

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the other day with an art, a new artist that I Had never heard of

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before. And so that's exciting. Like, just cool that they picked our song and.

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Wow. Yeah. So I. I'm excited to kind of get into more of

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the songwriting world a little bit more as

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like a songwriter instead of the artist all the time.

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Because I just. Yeah, I think it's really, really cool to be able to do

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that. I love it. And so. Well, tell me about this album

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because like you said you had stuff out and then you kind of scrapped it,

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you know, when you were in high school. And then you. You have a couple

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songs or you were releasing a couple songs a year. A few

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songs a year up until this. This album. Or

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you put out an E.P. right? In 20. I did put out three. Yeah. Perfect

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timing. And then now. So we'll. Tell me a little bit about

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that EP and then I want to hear about this album because I think in

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one of your. Your videos on Instagram, I saw

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you were talking about like the moment that

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you kind of found your sound. Right. With one of the songs. Yes. So I

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want to hear that about that as well. But let's get into the Tell me

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about perfect Timing and like, was that something. Were you able to tour on that

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or was that you just played locally with that release and was it self

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released and. Yes. So everything is self release.

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All of my stuff. I'm independent completely.

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But with perfect timing that I have wanted to do

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an EP for a while just because I've been doing singles

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for so long. Like, I'm like, I just need to put these all into one.

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And so I had released a few singles that year and

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maybe some of them were in the year before, but that was the year that

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I had my vocal surgery and in January,

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I'm pretty sure. Yes. And

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that came out in June. And so my surgery was in January.

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And so I just really like

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tried to promote it as much as I could with

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all of that because it was kind of tough

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to not. Yeah, you can't really hit the road right after

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Surgery. Yeah, like I couldn't really sing or play any

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shows much, but I did try to promote it heavily

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on social media and stuff like that. Like, and use. Use it to my

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advantage. One of the songs on There is One Day at a Time, that

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one was written in November

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before the surgery. And it was just kind of about the

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surgery because everything was out of my hands

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and which was stressful for me because I don't. I like

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being in control. And so when it came down to the title

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of the ep, Perfect Timing, that I was going through all

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the lyrics of all the songs on the EP and, like, trying to find

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something, like, in one of the songs. And in top

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off, the chorus says, it's perfect

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timing. Let's go drive in with the top off. And so I was like, I

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love perfect timing because it's kind of like, this is when this EP

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was supposed to come out. Even though I had this vocal surgery, like, it's all

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in good timing. I don't have to worry about it. And it kind

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of just felt like it was the right time, so that's why it was called

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Perfect Timing. And, yeah, I love all the songs on

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that ep. I honestly, it's kind of funny. I forget

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because I've just released so much music now that I forget

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about those songs or, like, forget about the older

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ones that people haven't heard yet. So with this next show,

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I've put some of those songs on there as well. Oh, into

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your set list? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like, she. She

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Me is a huge record. I love that song. That song always

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on the set list, for sure. Okay. I was gonna say that's a mess of

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them, though. I. I kind of forget to add,

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but Shamy is always added on there, for sure. I like Poor

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Decisions too. I think that's a great song. Oh, thank you. That actually was the

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outside cut. That was my first outside. Oh, yeah. I loved

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that song when I heard it. Good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well,

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so then, yeah, you just. You just released your album, right? Yes,

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September 20th. So it's called off a month ago.

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Yeah, I know. A month. It feels like so much longer than that to me,

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just because. Well, you've probably had the songs for so long, you're just, like, been

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waiting, right? You're like, oh, my gosh. Like, Exactly.

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So, yeah, I released off the record September 20th, and. And

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this was because I have wanted to do an

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album for so long, like one that wasn't my,

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you know, high school album. And

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try. I'm just curious now, just. Was the high school album a country

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album or. No? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. It just doesn't sound anything like.

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Well, you're young, obviously. Yeah, I was super young. I'm just

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curious if it was a totally different genre. Totally different. But

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no, it was more country pop, though, for sure. Okay.

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Yeah. More country pop back then, but

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so, yeah, released this album. I've wanted to do one for so long, and I

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kind of just was like, why am I just waiting? I just need to

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do it. Like, what's, you know, what's the harm in doing an album. If

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it flops, it flops. And I did it, and I love it. So there's just,

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you know. Yeah, you just kind of got to try and see, you know, rather

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than wait for, like, the perfect moment, because there might not ever

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be the. You know. And so started kind of

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collecting these songs, like, a year ago and writing for it

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and kind of planning, like, because being an independent

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artist, I get to do literally everything behind it,

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picking, like, the album art, where I wanted to shoot everything.

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And me and my friend Maddie went out to Arizona. I'm

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sorry. Oh, that's okay. Hi, dog. Dolly. Come

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on. I love that your dog's name is Dolly. That's so good. Oh, of

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course. Labradoodle. Hey.

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Hey. No. So anyway,

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me and my friend Maddie, she shot all the photos and the

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visualizers for the album. We went out to Arizona for, like,

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24 hours and shot eight videos and.

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Eight, oh, my gosh. Photos with those same outfits. And it

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was crazy. We were up for, like, 27 hours because we didn't

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sleep when we got in. And that's what you do when

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you're balling on a budget. You gotta get it all done in the one day.

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But it was part of Arizona. Did you go to Mesa?

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Okay. Beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. So it was gorgeous, but it was

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July and neither of us. 120

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degrees, huh? Yeah. And there was a heat advisory, and there were no

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people out. It looked like we rented out the whole state. And

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in all, there's no one around. It was

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just crazy that we ended up having some heat

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exhaustion that night, which was horrible. But we. It was worth

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it because we got, like, the most. Got everything right. Photos.

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Yeah. Everything done in one day.

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And so, yeah, once I had that, I, you know,

449
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made picked the songs. That was really hard picking which ones I wanted. But

450
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I honestly, there was no, like, structure

451
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to choosing them. It was kind of like, because I still, being

452
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independent, I can pick my favorites and

453
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put them on there. And so I. I picked what I loved

454
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and hoped that people would love it as much as I love it.

455
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And it's worked. I mean, everyone seems to love it so far,

456
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so it's been good. That is amazing. It's a great album. I really. I really

457
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like it as well. I've been listening to the last couple days.

458
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You. Can you tell me the song that you were talking about in your video

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that you post? Yeah, so that was. Another man Will

460
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recorded that. It was, like, the first song on the album. Yeah, the first song

461
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on the album. Yep. Okay. On track one, we actually

462
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didn't write that for me. Which is funny, that. Because I was like, I already

463
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have my album, like, pretty much done. Like, I don't need it.

464
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And because it was too. It was me, Jesse Pugh,

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another artist, and Blaine Younger, a writer. And I was like, no, you can have

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it. Like, it's. You know, we'll write it for you. So then once

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we wrote it afterwards, I was like, I really like this

468
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song a lot. I was like, what did I do? And so I

469
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texted her. I was like, do you have any plans of releasing that? She was

470
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like, no, I don't think so. I'm like, okay. Do you mind if I do?

471
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Because I really love it. I'd love to add it on the album. And

472
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she was so excited. She was like, yes, please do.

473
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And so I ended up cutting it, and when we went into

474
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the studio with it, we just.

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I love Shania Twain and Martina McBride, like,

476
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90s country mixed with, like, some Carrie Underwood in there.

477
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And I've, like, been searching for the right

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sound for so long, and I've worked with

479
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Zachary Mano for, like, five years, and we

480
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were like, just trying to figure out the song or whatever.

481
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And once and I was there with him, we kind of go into the

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studio and build the track, and then I come back and do vocals.

483
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And we were building it and I was like, we found it. Like,

484
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this is the sound we've both been chasing for a long time. Because we knew

485
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what I wanted, we just couldn't really nail it. And so

486
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with that one, I was like, ah, we did it. And it was only. I

487
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think we had three more songs left. So it was

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that. Or maybe the two of us had two songs left. So it was that

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one and Blame it on My Boots, which are, like, very similar

490
00:30:27,610 --> 00:30:30,730
sounding songs. And

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with building an album, like. And I know that

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it's crazy to put out an album without finding that sound first, but it

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kind of was exciting because I found it through building the album.

494
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And you can kind of just hear the growth in

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and the finding that sound. Yeah. And it kind of bookends the

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album with that song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So,

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like, moving forward, like, after finding that, is that kind of like

498
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where you. Like, this is it. This is like, what we're gonna continue

499
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with. Yep, that's what we're gonna chase. And here

500
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going forward, I will have a Christmas song coming out very

501
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soon. And that also is in that vein,

502
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which I'm saying, so excited just to continue with you

503
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:20,770
know me now, finding the sound that I've been after for a long time.

504
00:31:21,010 --> 00:31:24,770
Amazing. Well, I appreciate your time, Charlie. Thank you for doing this. Yeah,

505
00:31:24,770 --> 00:31:28,490
thank you for having me. I appreciate it. It's always good to meet new

506
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people. And maybe I'll see you on Friday. Yeah, no, 100%. I

507
00:31:32,330 --> 00:31:35,650
have one more question for you before I let you go, though. I want to

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know if you have any advice for aspiring artists.

509
00:31:39,170 --> 00:31:42,960
Yeah, I mean, I would say stay

510
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,640
focused and try not to care a lot about what people think or,

511
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,240
you know, the rejections. You just kind of got to keep your head

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down, stay focused, and if one person says no, keep

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on going. Like, it's. It's tough to do. But I think

514
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that's really important, just to, like, trust in yourself and your talent and

515
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keep going until, you know, somebody says yes, and the white door

516
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opens.

517
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You bring it backward.

518
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Bring it backward, bringing it backward,

519
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,600
bringing it backward, bringing it backward,

520
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bringing it backwards.