BiB: Calvin (The Happy Fits) – Going Viral Overnight: How A DIY EP Changed Everything!

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What is going on? It is Adam welcome back to Bringing It Backwards, a podcast

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where both legendary and rising artists tell their own personal

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stories of how they achieved stardom. On this

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episode, we had a chance to hang out with Calvin of the band The Happy

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Fits over Zoom video. Calvin was born and raised in

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West Jersey. He grew up on a farm and he comes

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from a musical household in the sense that his

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grandparents were musical. He said it skipped a generation and then his

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siblings and himself are very, very musical. He's the youngest in the

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family, so his his siblings already had played piano and were doing

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violin, so he started picking up piano and eventually

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cello. Calvin tells us about jamming with his siblings as his real

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first band. We hear about him meeting Ross informing the band

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The Happy Fits. Calvin and Ross wrote the first EP at the

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end of high school, put it out not thinking anything of it, went their separate

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ways to college and the EP blew up. It

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ended up being number five on Spotify's US Viral charts

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and they started getting calls from major labels.

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So that was kind of the jump start of the band The Happy Fits. We

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hear about the other albums the band released and all about the new album

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and the major changes that have came with the band since the new

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album. It was 10 months of a lot of ups and

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downs, but the album's incredible and the band is stronger than ever.

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They're kicking off the tour to support the new album Love Sick

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in November, so check them out. Check out the video version of

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Going good, going good.

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For missing you that first time. Oh, it's all good.

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We were unexpectedly traveling through France

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the whole day and I had no service the

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whole day. Oh, bummer. Oh, all good, man. I'm glad we're able

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to, you know, get it to work out today. Yeah, man.

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Really stoked to be here. Sweet. I'm Adam and this is about

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you and your journey in music. And we'll talk about the band and

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the new album. Awesome. Heck, yeah. We kind of start

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off with your. Your origin story. Are you from Jersey? Born and

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raised in. Yeah, born and raised in New Jersey

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West Jersey. So not the Jersey shore part. More of like the

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farmlands in the rural area. Um, okay. Yeah. I

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grew up on a really nice, like, DIY farm that my dad made.

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He was, like, super into gardening and growing vegetables

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and stuff and like, you know, right around Me is just like,

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farm animals. Horses, cows. That's. That's kind of the area I grew up

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in. Oh, that's rad. Wow. Okay, cool. Do you come from

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a musical family at all? It kind of skipped a generation.

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My grandfather, he was, like, an amateur

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violinist, so I think he went to, like, the University of

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Miami or something for, like, a classical violin

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scholarship. Okay. He tried to get his kids to

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play, so that would be my dad, and they're a bit tone deaf, so

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they, you know, they played as kids, and no one took it further than

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that. And then basically, I have two

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older siblings. Older sister Justine, she's six years

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older. My brother is two years older. Andrew,

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my sister, she plays piano. My brother, he plays violin and piano, and he's a

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conductor as well. And basically, when I reached, like, six,

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my parents were like, all right, you have to choose an instrument. So

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I chose piano and cello so that we could, like, play chamber music

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together. So that was kind of like, my first band was with my

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siblings. That's rad. Wow. So everyone in your family's

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musical? I mean. Yeah. Like you said, it skipped a generation. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. It's like, all right, well, everyone in this family is going to be

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musical. Yeah. My brother and my sister definitely pushed me,

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you know, Like, I was pretty desperate to not be, like, the youngest

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one who couldn't play music, so. Sure, they were. They

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were great to have around. Like, they were, you know, just, like,

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eons, like, better than I was. And that really pushed me growing up

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to keep up with them. That's awesome. Did you stay. Did you stay

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doing piano and you still play cello, but, like, did you stay with

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piano, like, through middle school, high school, all the. All the way into

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college and all that? Yeah. My last year of, like, serious

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classical piano study was probably, like, eighth grade.

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But I, like, I, you know, still play for fun.

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I write mainly on guitar and piano. So, Yeah,

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I owe, like, everything to, like, to. To my

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piano teachers, you know? Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah.

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That stuck with me growing up. When did you start writing your own

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songs? You know, it started, like,

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as, like, just, like, silly songs that I would write to, like, you

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know, kind of, like, make my parents or my friends, like, laugh around,

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like, fourth grade, you know, I was really into, like, Weird Al

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Yankovic. It's, you know, like, like, parody songs. Exactly.

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Yeah. And, like, you know, I would. That would always be like, my, like,

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school project of choice would be to do, like, a rap or, like, you

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know, some. Some kind of, like, pop song and like, rewrite it for, like,

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I don't know, you know, the Lewis and Clark expedition or something. Sure,

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yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know. Yeah, that just got. That got me,

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like, really into, you know, like, wordplay and stuff like that.

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And I think it wasn't until around high school

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when I realized I was like, okay, I'm finding myself, like, spending more and more

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time thinking about writing music. I knew, like,

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to be, like, an artist or to be in a band, like, was really hard.

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So my original plan was, like, I'm gonna go to school, I'm gonna graduate, get

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a degree, get a stable job, and then I'll, like, you know, then I'll dabble

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in releasing my own music. But the year before going off to college,

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me and Ross, the original guitarist of The Happy Fits, who's no longer in the

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band, we released our first ep, Awfully

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Appealing, and just put it out on Spotify. And then

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basically we went to school, we both went to college,

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and like, two weeks later, it started, like, charting on, like, the

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USA viral 50 and, like, the global. Yeah. Really?

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Yeah. Because I think back back in the day, in 2016, you know,

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playlists meant a bit more. So we were on, like, Fresh Finds, I think is

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what it. What did it for us. Sure. But, I mean,

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for an independent band to be found on, you

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know, Spotify like that, to be put on Fresh Finds is insane. Yeah.

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I mean, the story. Yeah, it's. The story is even a little

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crazier. Like, our. Our first manager, Tyler

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Miranda, who he's now a lawyer, and we have different

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management, but we're still great, great friends.

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He ran a music blog back in 2016,

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and one of his friends told him to look up the Happy

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Hits playlist that was on Spotify, and he accidentally

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typed in Happy Fits and our original artwork for

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Awfully Appealing I made on Ms. Paint. So it, like, stuck out

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in a very bad way. Yeah, you can look it up

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on Google. It's horrible. I'm gonna look at it right now.

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Yeah. And he saw that. He's like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever.

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This has to be horrible. And then he listened to I think it was While

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youe Fade Away, and he was like, oh, wait, this is great. And

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I think he had one of his friends from college was, like,

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interning at Spotify some. That was kind of like the. The

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gateway or the connection we got to Fresh Finds, and later on, he reached out

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and he was like, hey, like, I really love your music. I'd love to, like,

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you know, work with you in any capacity. And. Yeah, then he

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managed us for, like, two years, and that's

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crazy. So you're. I'm looking at the album cover. That'.

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The Banana. The banana with the mouth and stuff and

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the eyes again. We just released it for, like, friends and family, you know, like,

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we didn't have any plans of, you know, going viral,

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so. Right. But the fact that your album cover looked like that and the

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guy typed in word and wrong, and he's. What the hell is this? And

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he liked it enough to send it to. Yeah.

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What a weird chain of events. It's awesome. I know. I honestly, I

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think that's probably the luckiest we've been in the entire. It was like,

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it started off a million percent lucky, and then it's just

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kind of been like a slow downhill from there.

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Well, after, like. Okay, so you guys put that up on Spotify. Not you

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were a band, but you. It was just like, you didn't think that that was

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gonna be like. Yeah. It wasn't like, this

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is the band that's gonna do it for us. Because you had plans to go

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to college or you were going to college. Right. And you put this thing out.

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I was at the school, and it blows up. Yeah.

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I was going to school down in Macon, Georgia.

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Robert McDuffie, center for Strings. I was going for a cello.

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Classical cello degree. And. Yeah.

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I mean, when I remember waking up, like, the day

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after it got on. Fresh Minds, because it takes like a day for, like,

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you know, stats to update. Yeah. The numbers of show. Yeah. And it

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was like, you know, they had just launched Spotify for

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artists. So, like, it was like, went from literally, like 12

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streams to like, 32,000 in a day. And we're like,

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that's crazy. Yeah. And it's also funny because I still have the

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screenshots from that time and that time in. I love

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that in American meme culture, I think we were number three in the usa

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and the top two songs at the time were Dicks out for Harambe.

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So. Yeah,

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that was the snapshot of the times when we blew up.

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That's so cool, though. Yeah, I know. Crazy was almost 10 years ago.

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Yeah. Like, when that's happening, are you, like, now you guys are all. Because

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you said you and Ross had put that out together. Just the two. You were

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in the band at that point. Yeah. We didn't even get it mastered.

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It was just us and then this guy, Matt Moralekis,

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who's a great friend of mine still, he works in la. Now,

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he had a studio in Patterson, New Jersey, and,

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like, he heard some of the demos. We'd shopped around at a few studios and

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we're just, like, looking for someone who is, like, cheap and not, like, smelly.

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Sounds like. Yeah. And, like, Matt was in this

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awesome band, Born Cages, and, like, he was willing to cut

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us a deal. And, yeah, we spent, I think it was like,

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four days at his studio. So chill, just guy.

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And even to this day, you know, we see each other whenever we go to

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la. I think he's like, work with, like, Jacob Collier now. Like, he's like,

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yeah, he's. He's really doing things. Yeah, exactly.

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But, yeah, honestly, I lost my train of thought there. Yeah,

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so you guys had put that out and it was just a two you. And

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then you go yourself. Because he didn't go to the same college, right? No, he

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was going to University of Delaware. So. So this is happening.

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And then what are you guys, like, should we

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move on or what? Yeah, there was like

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a week. I remember I'm just like, constantly leaving class because, like,

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something crazy just happened. Like, I remember, like,

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one of them was like, oh, my God, my mom's

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friend's friend knows the drummer of Dr. Dog. And

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he just listened to it or something like that. Leaving class

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to be like, oh, my God. The funniest,

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I think, memory from that time was waking up

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at like, 9am I was, like, late to

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my music theory class and I got a call from literally, the

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president of Elektra. And he called and, like, I just

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woken up. I was like, hey, what's up? And, like, he was like, you

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know, we want you to come in and, like, play for us. And I was

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like, oh, sick. And then, like, I was like, such an idiot. I was like,

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so you guys, like, signing us or something? And he was like,

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like, no, like, you're gonna come. You come in and play, you know? And, like,

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after that call, I was like, I was like, telling all my friends, I was

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like, I think we're gonna get signed. I think they're gonna, like, take us on,

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like, a world tour. I think this is it, you know? And then we played

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that showcase in New York in, like, October 2016,

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and then, like, never heard back. Oh, so you ended up going to Elektra and

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doing that thing? Yeah, we did a show and I think that was our only,

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like, record label showcase to this day. We brought all of our parents

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and their friends, you know, so it was like. It was like two rows in,

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like, a tiny little, like, Recording booth. It was like two rows of

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parents and then like president of Elektra, head of

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A and R of Elektra in the back. You know, it was like just lining

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the walls. Ye. It was. You nervous playing that show? I was so

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nervous. I mean, we hadn't like, played shows really. We had done like, I think

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like two or three, like, charity shows over the summer. You know, just like local

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stuff because, like, that was it. We're just like a local band for friends and

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family and. Yeah, we had. We were

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playing in like short shorts and shoot no shoes

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because Brittany Howard from Alabama Shakes plays with no shoes, so we suppose

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she does. And yeah, you know, we

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were just like really naive kids that like, had no idea what we were

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doing. But, you know. Yeah. I still to this day, like, strongly

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believe you need that, you know, to make it. Oh, 100%.

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That's amazing. Naivety. Yeah. So do you

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end up finishing school like you both finished school? Because I know

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with this new album, obviously there's been a lot of changes to the band, right?

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Yeah, yeah. So. Well, I want to get into that

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part, but I'm just curious with Once that's all kind of

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happening in the. And you both are at two different schools

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and the. The band's like, doing well

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online. Like, how do you. Yeah. You end up getting back together and just

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saying, let's just try this as a band. So. Yeah, Ross dropped out

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after, I think it was the. For his first semester. And then for me, it

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took me two semesters because basically the program I was doing there,

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there's only like 24 kids that get in and we're an orchestra.

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So if I were to leave, I would be. There's 23. That'd be very. Yes.

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Yeah, it was very like, you know, it

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was a full ride thing too. So like, and I at the same time

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was like having a great time, learning a lot. Like, it was a very

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amazing opportunity. Sure. Robert McDuffie is just like this

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world class violinist and like, he. He had his support for the

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band like from the start. So, you know, that was. That meant a lot

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to me because, like, there were some like, you know, classical mentors of mine that

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weren't so st. That I was doing rock and roll music. Sure.

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You're wasting your talent, boy. Yeah. Yeah, I think. Yeah. Like,

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that was. That was like, definitely like the vibe from my parents when

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I first told them, you know, that I was leaving school. So.

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Yeah, so it took me a year to leave and then, you know, in terms

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of like finishing School. I just have

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that one year of classical conservatory under my belt. And then over

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the pandemic, I went back for, like, accounting, and I'm like half

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a semester away from getting a full on account degree. But hell,

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yeah, you know, you know, things just started picking up after the

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pandemic, and now I'm like, you know, one day. Yeah, you're back in the

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music world. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. Okay,

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so you. You both end up dropping out, and then the band goes

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for a few years before this, you know,

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newest album, New venture. Yeah, this is the longest we've gone

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without recording a record. It's been like two years in between each one.

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This one was three. Yeah, we just went through a lot of changes,

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you know, starting with obviously, Ross leaving

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and then trying to find, you know, new members of, like, trying to decide

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what is the future of The Happy Fits, what is it gonna look like, and,

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you know, income. Raina Mullen and Nico

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Rose, like, they. They've been with us now,

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you know, I like to say, like, basically two years at this point.

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And they've just been so awesome to work with and,

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like, really have help elevate. I think this. This

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last record that we did, Lovesick, it's just been.

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Yeah, it's been so different being able to work with, you know,

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two amazing women who are bringing in

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female vocals on top of, like, what we already do, which

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is kind of just like pop rock, indie pop music.

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So a lot of our inspiration for this record was just like Fleetwood

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Mac, abba, you know, like two girls. Yeah, like

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Moms and the Papas. Like, we were like, almost like, study

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their. Their music and the way that they harmonize to be like, okay, which kind.

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How do we want to attack this harmony? Do we want to sound like, you

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know, the Mamas and the Papas, or, you know, do we want to take it

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more in like a, you know, classic Fleetwood Mac direction? So it gave

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us so many more options. Yeah, because you had,

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you. You have. You had three albums out before that, plus that, the

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ep that did well. Yeah. And so this

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album now you have two female, or you have a.

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You're adding two people to band. And then, like, that must have just changed

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everything, right? I mean, you have female vocals now, which is a

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big difference. And then obviously the whole,

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you know, writing the album was that different. Are you writing with them? And, like,

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did you guys start it, the project, clean, like,

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Lovesick. You're gonna go into this as just the four of you now as a

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new project or how did that. Yeah, I'm a very, like, private

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writer. Like, I need to be kind of alone by. By myself

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and, like, kind of isolated to, you know, to

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really think. When I started

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writing with, like, Ross, that process was,

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like. He would show me something on, like, his looper pedal that he made, just,

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like, an instrumental, and then I would take that home, listen to it a million

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times, and try to think of, like, words and melodies on top of it,

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you know, just like, based off of, like, what does music make me feel?

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So, you know, I've done some, like, songwriting camps, too, and even in those, I'm

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like. I feel like kind of like the Ugly duckling a little bit, because I'm

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like, ah. It's just so. It's just not how my brain works. I like to

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just, like, be alone. So when. When it comes to writing with. With these

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guys, my process is kind of, like, the same where

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I'll work on something pretty heavily by myself

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sometimes, like, flesh out a demo program, like MIDI drums or

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something, just so I can get it to the way that I'm like, here's this

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way in my head, like, that I've, you know, been hearing it this way

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for months or years or something. And then when it. When once

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I have that and I'm happy that that version exists, then I'm like,

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okay, now I'm ready to show it to people. I'm ready to have everyone, like,

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give their influence, make it their own. I just, like, need to,

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like, get that original spark out first. Yeah.

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So, like, a big example of that is like, like, Lovesick, the

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song. That one was probably the one that changed, like, the most.

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You know, we also have, like, an amazing producer, Ayad Al

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Adamy, who's also our manager.

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So that. That song just was. Started as, like.

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It was kind of like a acoustic guitar intro that, like,

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led into, like, the rockier section of Lovesick, which still

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in the song. And he had came into the studio, and he was like, I

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just had a dream about this song, that it should be, like, kind of like

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a doo wop slow 60s, you know, like,

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I'm trying to. Trying to think of, like, the right. The right song, but he

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was like, just trust me on this one. We're like, all right, we'll go there.

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We worked on it for, like, two hours. Started, like, caking some stuff in

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reverb. I started trying to sing it, you know, a little more

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sultry, and I was like, something's just not right. And we were basically

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about to give up on it. And then Raina Just started singing it and she

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was like also very tired because we had been working on this for hours now.

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Yeah. Just like we all immediately like stopped and we're like, oh my

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God, Reina, you have to see the intro. And it all just like.

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It all just like came. Came together from there. And then like

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the guitar solo, like having Nico just like ripping the

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guitar solo in that song, you know, it just made

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the song feel so much like this new version of The Happy Fits.

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Wow. And because this album took you. It said.

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I was just reading about like what you guys have put out about it, like,

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or it took. It was like 10 months. Just a bunch of. Yeah.

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Mishaps. Right. Some one thing after another. Yeah, yeah,

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it was 10 months of just trying. Trying stuff out. I mean, even down to

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like the mixing phase. We were. We were kind of changing stuff.

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You know, our mixer was really awesome. Daniel

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Warman and yeah, like, there was like that song

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Wild in Love. I remember that was like one of the last

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ones we mixed. And we're all sitting around the booth and like,

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you know, down to like the beginning of that song.

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I was like, oh, there's something missing. And then I was like, wait, can we

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add in like a little like weird little hissy like sine

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wave sound that sounds like a bomb is falling. And then like we just

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lost like another like three hours trying to like do that thing, figure that

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out that we should have done in like production. But then like, we all did

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it and we were like, we were very happy that we ended up doing that.

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It worked. Yeah. Yeah. It's. It's fun being able to

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sit with these songs, you know, because you like, you, You. You grow as a

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person within 10 months. So like, sure to grow with the music and

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like change it up to the last minute. I. I think is. Is really

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awesome that is with going into this

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new album were like when. When

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Raina and Nico joined the band, had you had start. Had you had started

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this album already or were. Did they join

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and you guys were wrapping up some of, you know, under

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the Shade of Green tour or something like that. And then you had a.

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Or were they put in the band? Like, did you know the band was going

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to keep going prior to the album starting? I'd say so like

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timeline wise. Yeah. Yeah. Ross

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stopped wanting to be a part of things around like middle of like

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2023. So bought Reyna to play

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Lollapalooza with us in 2023. So that was our first show with Reina.

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Okay. And Nico, she was Being

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managed by our managers, too, in a different project called the

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Gooms. And then they started falling apart.

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So she. We asked her to, you know, join our band. Well,

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actually, I think the story goes, like, our manager was like, hey, you should audition

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for The Happy Fits and, like, send them, like, you ripping a guitar

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solo or something. And, like, she said it, and it was an instant, like, okay,

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she rips. She's in the band. Yeah. So around that time,

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too. So this is fall 2023 now. We're going on the last

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tour for under the Shade of Green, our B and C market tour, you know,

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in smaller cities. And that's when Luke started struggling a

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lot, too, you know, staying sober. Cause he'd been trying for a whole

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year to be sober. Oh, wow. So he kept

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falling off the wagon. And, you know, him and I had, like, a really deep

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heart to heart, and I was just like, I think you should take this tour

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off and just, like, focus on yourself, because, like, it's not gonna be easier on

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the road, and it's especially not gonna be easier once you get back from tour.

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And, like, he. He really listened to me. And, like, you know, since

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then, we, like, we haven't looked back, so. He did miss that tour, but it

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was for literally, like, everyone's benefit. Even, like, after that tour,

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after I'd seen how much he'd grown, I was like, oh, I should stop drinking,

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too. So I also stopped drinking. Did you really? That's awesome,

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man. Congratulations. Yeah, so I'm like, two years sober,

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California sober. He's completely.

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But yeah, he. He just, like, he

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blossomed, you know? And so while I was on that

440
00:27:10,850 --> 00:27:14,680
tour with Reina and Nico, we had Trevor Hogan,

441
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,160
who's in this band, Wall Carpets. Everyone should check it out. It's great. Great

442
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,640
band. He. He filled in on drums. Literally,

443
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:25,240
I want to say, like, a week or two before he just, like, learned everything,

444
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,320
which is wild. But he. He was, like, young and hungry, and it's like,

445
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,840
I loved feeding off that energy because, like, you know, it's like, man, I missed

446
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,520
when I was 21 and, like, you know, I could just learn 21 songs like

447
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,200
that. So, yeah, we just toured like that,

448
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,050
and it was. It was definitely, like, interesting seeing

449
00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:47,690
the fans reactions. They were overwhelmingly supportive. You know, we had a few

450
00:27:47,690 --> 00:27:51,210
naysayers here and there of, like, it's just Calvin, like, what's going

451
00:27:51,210 --> 00:27:54,930
on? Yeah. But, you know, like, I think

452
00:27:55,010 --> 00:27:58,690
99.999% of people that came out to that tour had a great time.

453
00:27:58,770 --> 00:28:02,450
And, like, we're just blown away by Nico and Reina.

454
00:28:02,530 --> 00:28:06,290
Especially like the happy fits with female vocals. It just makes

455
00:28:06,290 --> 00:28:09,350
sense. Yeah, it's so cool.

456
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:13,470
So after that tour, it was

457
00:28:13,470 --> 00:28:17,310
actually on that tour that I left a

458
00:28:17,310 --> 00:28:21,150
seven year relationship because I just had. There

459
00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:24,790
was a lot of metamorphosis that happened on the tour and

460
00:28:26,150 --> 00:28:29,950
basically Nico and Reyna got to see me basically at my lowest of

461
00:28:29,950 --> 00:28:33,670
lows. But that was kind of when I started

462
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:37,600
writing and demoing out this next record because, like,

463
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,160
if it was for the first time, you know, we were growing out of

464
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,440
like the kids that we were during the pandemic,

465
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,760
you know, all the bad habits that we left behind, the drinking and the drugs

466
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,000
and, you know, just trying to find responsibility and find

467
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,680
out who I am as a person. Being on

468
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,040
that tour by myself, being surrounded by people

469
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,360
that were like super excited to be on tour, that

470
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,120
wanted the show to be the best, that it could be, like feeling a part

471
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,560
of a team that kind of like changed my whole perspective of like, oh,

472
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,280
this is why I wanted to do this in the first place. I wanted a

473
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,920
team. I wanted, you know, I wanted to be in this really positive

474
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,200
environment. And that

475
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,560
when I was on that tour and, you know, around all those

476
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,480
people for like the first time, I was like, this is what I need every

477
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,160
day in my life. So that

478
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,840
caused a lot of reflection of like, what was. Why was I,

479
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,520
you know, in that relationship for seven years if, you know, if I

480
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,320
wasn't the best person that I could be? And you know, also at the same

481
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,080
time, right after that tour, I moved to Brooklyn and started living

482
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,400
alone for the first time in my entire life. Wow. Yeah.

483
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,320
A lot of big stuff. Yeah. So I was like, I was single and I

484
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,120
was in Brooklyn and I was just like, I was. Felt

485
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,640
like a little kid again of just like falling in love, like feeling butterflies in

486
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,230
my stomach. And like, that was so special to me

487
00:30:05,230 --> 00:30:09,030
just because that was all the music I grew up listening

488
00:30:09,030 --> 00:30:12,510
to, like the Beatles. It's simple love songs, but it's

489
00:30:13,150 --> 00:30:16,750
just my favorite kind of. Yeah, and they're the best songs.

490
00:30:16,910 --> 00:30:20,710
Exactly. Yeah. And you know, and

491
00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:24,470
coming from under the Shade of Green, you know, where I'm talking

492
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:28,270
about, you know, songs like in the lobby of like glorifying how,

493
00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:32,580
you know, how crazy it would be to be a shitty government lobbyist and

494
00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:36,420
just advocate for myself. You know, there's that, there's songs like that,

495
00:30:36,420 --> 00:30:39,460
there's songs about, you know, how it feels like the world's ending, you know, going

496
00:30:39,460 --> 00:30:43,060
from that place to just Going to a place of, you know, just

497
00:30:43,220 --> 00:30:46,020
pure vulnerability and passion

498
00:30:46,660 --> 00:30:50,500
felt so refreshing and kind of like a return to form for

499
00:30:50,660 --> 00:30:54,420
myself as a songwriter of like, you know, this is

500
00:30:54,420 --> 00:30:58,020
where it all starts. I feel like for everyone, the love song, you know, like

501
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:02,170
so. And then that kind of all spilled out into the

502
00:31:02,170 --> 00:31:05,330
album, like all of the. Yeah, yeah, there was,

503
00:31:05,970 --> 00:31:09,530
it was, it was fun. There's songs like Cruel Power. Like, you know, when I

504
00:31:09,530 --> 00:31:12,450
first moved to Brooklyn and this girl, she.

505
00:31:13,170 --> 00:31:16,210
She DM'd me and we started hanging out a bunch and I was like, I

506
00:31:16,210 --> 00:31:18,690
was like super ready for it. And then I found out she had a boyfriend.

507
00:31:18,690 --> 00:31:21,770
I was like, why does she keep hitting me up to like, you know, hang

508
00:31:21,770 --> 00:31:25,370
out, hang out with her? And then she left for like a

509
00:31:25,370 --> 00:31:28,090
vacation. She was like, hey, can you wash my flowers while I'm gone and like,

510
00:31:28,090 --> 00:31:31,240
you know, water them? I was like, okay. Like, sure.

511
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,000
Yeah, yeah. And then, you know that song.

512
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,680
On the trip? Yeah, no, he didn't though.

513
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,440
But. Yeah. So that song

514
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,240
ended up being Cruel Power, which was like, you know, some

515
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,560
of the fans favorites now. That's awesome. Yeah.

516
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,870
So it was nice being able to actually like write about, you know, real

517
00:31:55,870 --> 00:31:59,550
things that actually happened to me. Where I think there are some love songs

518
00:31:59,550 --> 00:32:02,470
on like under the Shade of Green, where I was like, oh, this feels kind

519
00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:04,350
of like a little soulless.

520
00:32:06,430 --> 00:32:10,110
Where like the spark was real when it. When it happened. Like, there's a

521
00:32:10,110 --> 00:32:13,630
song like Sweet Things, which is like so old. Like,

522
00:32:13,950 --> 00:32:16,750
I want to say like I wrote it in like high school or something. So

523
00:32:16,750 --> 00:32:19,710
like when I was writing it, it felt so real. But when I was recording

524
00:32:19,710 --> 00:32:22,650
it, there was kind of like felt like a mental dish disconnect. Like a disconnect

525
00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:26,410
from it. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. But like this whole record was like very

526
00:32:26,410 --> 00:32:30,210
fresh off of Falling in Love Again. Yeah.

527
00:32:30,210 --> 00:32:33,770
Did you record it in the same place that you did the other albums or

528
00:32:33,770 --> 00:32:37,489
was that different? Yeah, we recorded this Applehead

529
00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:41,170
recording studio in Woodstock, New York. Okay.

530
00:32:41,170 --> 00:32:44,930
Which is this old converted barn, beautiful room.

531
00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:49,730
Like I think it's like 30 foot ceilings. Like it's.

532
00:32:50,770 --> 00:32:54,430
Yeah. So it was engineered by. By Chris Bittner, who

533
00:32:54,430 --> 00:32:58,190
works there. And we chose that room specifically

534
00:32:58,190 --> 00:33:01,710
because we wanted like a big rock drum sound.

535
00:33:03,230 --> 00:33:07,070
So throughout the entire like production process, which. This was

536
00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:10,590
my first like Happy Fitz record co producing with aad,

537
00:33:11,230 --> 00:33:14,670
that was like the biggest thing was like, how do we keep the natural reverberations

538
00:33:15,230 --> 00:33:18,990
and, you know, delays and echoes of the room in the track while you're

539
00:33:18,990 --> 00:33:22,790
listening to it? We Even had, like. We had, like, a

540
00:33:22,790 --> 00:33:26,550
bunch of what, you know, I call them, like, flavor microphones. Like, just,

541
00:33:26,550 --> 00:33:30,070
like, hidden basically throughout the room. There was one, like, in the loft,

542
00:33:30,150 --> 00:33:33,990
like, at least 40ft away from the drum kit that would just, like, give

543
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:37,110
this, like, crazy, crazy echo sound.

544
00:33:37,749 --> 00:33:41,590
Yeah, it just makes the room sound huge. They also had at

545
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:45,310
Applehead, they have a real plate in, like, their back room. So just,

546
00:33:45,310 --> 00:33:48,710
like, I don't even know if you've ever seen them. They're, like, huge. Like, it.

547
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:51,990
Literally, it's a wall. It was like the entire room is just a reverb plate.

548
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:56,850
Ye. There's songs like, you know, superior, the Beginning of Love,

549
00:33:56,850 --> 00:34:00,650
Sick, where it has that. Just, like, that snare and that huge

550
00:34:00,650 --> 00:34:04,370
echo that comes after. That's all from that plate reverb, really. I have

551
00:34:04,370 --> 00:34:07,410
to. I'll go back and listen to it. I want to hear. I love hearing

552
00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:11,170
those little things. Yeah, I love it, too. So, yeah,

553
00:34:11,170 --> 00:34:14,970
we printed a lot of the. That. That realness that was up at

554
00:34:14,970 --> 00:34:18,690
Woodstock and all the guitars, too. What

555
00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:22,529
made this record a little different is other Happy

556
00:34:22,529 --> 00:34:26,329
Fits records, we would, you know, we would track as a band, but we would

557
00:34:26,329 --> 00:34:29,889
just record drums. And then, you know, we'd overdub, like, all the guitars

558
00:34:30,929 --> 00:34:34,689
and everything. And then, you know, usually, like, Luke would be in there

559
00:34:34,689 --> 00:34:37,969
doing, like, 20, 30 takes by himself. This one,

560
00:34:38,529 --> 00:34:42,209
we had the girls and Luke, and then our friend Graham on

561
00:34:42,209 --> 00:34:46,049
bass. They were actually just playing the track in the room together. Cause we

562
00:34:46,049 --> 00:34:49,569
actually had the space to do that. And then amps were in their

563
00:34:49,649 --> 00:34:53,339
own sidewalk. Sure. But, like, that was so cool because

564
00:34:53,339 --> 00:34:57,139
then I was just behind the console in the. In the control

565
00:34:57,219 --> 00:35:00,979
room. Just, like, hearing my song played back to me. Being able

566
00:35:00,979 --> 00:35:04,619
to make tweaks, like, live, which is like, you know, feels like you're a

567
00:35:04,619 --> 00:35:08,379
wizard. You know, when you're doing. Sure, yeah. You're like, yeah, change this guitar part.

568
00:35:08,379 --> 00:35:11,699
Do that, do that, do that. And it's like, yeah, that was the coolest experience.

569
00:35:12,499 --> 00:35:16,259
And everyone, like, really felt it, too. In. In the room. When

570
00:35:16,259 --> 00:35:18,810
they would come back in, they'd be like, oh, this feels like. Like. This feels

571
00:35:18,810 --> 00:35:22,530
like a real, like, live rock song. Which is the vibe that we

572
00:35:22,530 --> 00:35:26,290
wanted from the start. Love it, man. Well, I. I think the album is

573
00:35:26,290 --> 00:35:30,050
amazing. And your tour kicks off a couple, like, Monday

574
00:35:30,050 --> 00:35:33,450
or so. Tuesday. No, Saturday, I think. Right. The day after

575
00:35:33,450 --> 00:35:37,290
Halloween. Yeah, that's our US Tour. We actually just

576
00:35:37,290 --> 00:35:40,970
finished up four weeks in Europe and the uk and

577
00:35:41,290 --> 00:35:45,130
they learned the words very fast. Like, it came out the

578
00:35:45,130 --> 00:35:48,770
17th, and then our first show was the 24th.

579
00:35:49,170 --> 00:35:52,690
And they knew all the lyrics. Yeah, it was so fun

580
00:35:52,930 --> 00:35:56,610
hearing people sing it in all the different accents. Like, that was the

581
00:35:56,610 --> 00:36:00,410
coolest. Yeah, that was the coolest thing. And songs that you had just put out

582
00:36:00,410 --> 00:36:03,250
and you're in a totally different part of the world and they know all the

583
00:36:03,250 --> 00:36:07,090
music. That's crazy. The kids are so, so fun

584
00:36:07,090 --> 00:36:10,370
over there. And I know it's gonna be the same in the US Just a

585
00:36:10,370 --> 00:36:14,130
little bit bigger. So. Yeah, I'm in Nashville. You're playing here next week, I

586
00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:17,880
think. Yeah. Are you coming? Definitely. Go. I want to check it out. Yeah. I

587
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,880
didn't realize that it was coming up this quick, but I'll put it on my

588
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,720
calendar. And Pom Pom Squad. I've had them on

589
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:28,440
my show before. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. So forgot her name. The

590
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,200
singer. I also don't know her name, but

591
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,360
I can tell you. You'll meet her, you'll know her well.

592
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,080
Starting on Saturday. This small world we live in,

593
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,620
the music world, it's like. So her manager

594
00:36:43,780 --> 00:36:46,740
is Taylor Allen, who used to play in Flip Turn.

595
00:36:47,860 --> 00:36:51,500
I've had Flip Turn on as well. I love that band. Yeah. And then

596
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:54,820
Flip Turn and us, we used to play shows together, like all the time,

597
00:36:55,220 --> 00:36:59,020
you know, when we were all starting in the scene. And then also

598
00:36:59,020 --> 00:37:02,580
this last summer. Two summers ago, actually.

599
00:37:02,980 --> 00:37:06,540
So I was doing a songwriting camp and in one of my sessions was Cody

600
00:37:06,540 --> 00:37:10,120
Fitzgerald, who produced the Pom Pom Squad record, so. Oh,

601
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,760
cool. It just felt like the universe was pushing us towards Pompom Squad

602
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,760
as the feature under tour. Exactly.

603
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,360
And her new record rocks. I love it. So

604
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,000
I'm really excited to get to know her. And, you know, that's awesome,

605
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,760
man. Show us together. Well, I appreciate your time, Calvin. Thanks so much for

606
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,280
doing this. And hey, congratulations. I'm sober

607
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,400
too, so I think that's rad that you guys were able to do that. And

608
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,790
I loved reading. I. Maybe

609
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:42,310
it's was in the press

610
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:45,830
release I got. I think it might. It might. Maybe it wasn't you because you

611
00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:48,070
guys kind of did like you kind of sat him down and did like a

612
00:37:48,070 --> 00:37:51,590
little like intervention thing, right? Yeah, yeah. It was like a one on one

613
00:37:51,590 --> 00:37:55,350
intervention that we had. And you know. Yeah, because I think he

614
00:37:55,350 --> 00:37:59,190
says in this, I want to find the thing to quote him, but he basically

615
00:37:59,190 --> 00:38:02,990
said like he wasn't even mad at you and that he just needed to hear

616
00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:05,350
what you had to say and that he needed to do it for himself. And

617
00:38:05,350 --> 00:38:08,950
that's like. So that's like everything AAA teaches, right?

618
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:12,590
And I thought was crazy. I was like, damn. Like, he actually got it. Because

619
00:38:12,590 --> 00:38:16,430
most people get pissed and they're like, I don't need this. Exactly. The fact

620
00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:19,750
that it worked out the way it did, I think that's so cool, man. Yeah,

621
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:23,429
it was. It was like a really. Just, like. It was a

622
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:27,110
really beautiful experience. It was hard. It was the

623
00:38:27,110 --> 00:38:30,670
hardest conversation I think I've ever had to have. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah.

624
00:38:30,670 --> 00:38:33,190
2023 was the year of hard conversations.

625
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:38,460
There were a lot. But yeah. Yeah. I think I realized

626
00:38:38,460 --> 00:38:42,020
after that year of, like, okay, confrontation is hard, but it's so

627
00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:45,580
necessary for, like, any relationship. Like. Sure.

628
00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:48,620
Being able to communicate, especially with yourself, that's like,

629
00:38:49,820 --> 00:38:52,860
really gotta. You gotta take inventory on yourself

630
00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:57,340
100%. Well, I. Again, I appreciate your time, Calvin. Thanks so much.

631
00:38:57,340 --> 00:39:00,500
I have one more question. I want to know if you have any advice for

632
00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:04,240
aspiring artists. Okay. I. Whenever I get this

633
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:07,800
question, I always say, find yourself a team

634
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,040
that, you know, supports you, challenges you,

635
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,000
most importantly. And, yeah, just wants to

636
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,480
collaborate with you. You can't do this alone. There's. There's too much.

637
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,040
There's too much. So find a.

638
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:29,750
It. Bringing it backward.

639
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:37,110
Bringing it backwards, bring it backward,

640
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:40,790
bring it backward, bring it backward,

641
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:42,630
bring it backward.