BiB: Bailey Spinn – From Viral TikTok Star to Hard Rock Trailblazer (The Untold Journey)

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What is going on? It is Adam welcome back to Bringing It Backwards, a podcast

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where both legendary and rising artists tell their own personal stories

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of how they achieve stardom. On this episode we had a

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chance to catch up with Bailey Spin Over Zoom Video.

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We had Bailey on the podcast about three years ago

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now. He'll definitely recognize Bailey if you have

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TikTok or really any social media app. She's so massive

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on social media. Was really cool was the last time we

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talked to Bailey she hadn't put any music out yet. She had her EP

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complete but she. Had not yet released any of the music from

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My Worst Enemy so we get to hear about that. She was really

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nervous about putting those songs out. Obviously every song on the the

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entire EP has a couple million plus streams so did

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well we talk about the huge success she had with Happy Ending,

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all about the debut album she released. This year earlier this year called

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Loser. And we talked a lot about the new music

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she has coming out with the most recent song being critical and the

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one before that fear of going out. She has another

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album in the works and she talks all about that as well. You can

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watch the interview with Bailey and myself on our Facebook page and YouTube channel at

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Awesome. Well, thank you so much for. For doing this. We chatted,

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like, two years ago. Yeah. And you didn't have any music out

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yet at the time, which is why. Yeah, that's crazy. Now I

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do. Yeah, now you have a bunch of stuff out, and I want to talk

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to you about it. Yeah. You were telling me about.

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You know, we kind of. This is about you and your journey in music and

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kind of your backstory. We got that last time, but we can. We'll recap a

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little bit on it. But I'm curious because how it kind of ended was you're

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like, I have this EP of music that I'm working on. And then obviously

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that came out, and you have bunch of other stuff out, so I'm excited to

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hear about it. So I'll just start back with.

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I mean, you're born in Virginia or D.C. area, right? Close

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to D.C. yeah. I always say Fairfax because nobody knows

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where the city is. Sure. And you said it's about 40 minutes from D.C. and

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everything. Yeah. Okay. And then you moved to.

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You went to college at San Diego State? I did for one

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year. Okay. So that's where we kind of were, like, when we. I think we

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talked. Maybe you had just left there. You were in la, so that's kind of

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where I want to pick up. I'm curious, just because at that time, I mean,

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you had. You still have a massive following on social media and everything,

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but you had went, like, Covid happened. Right. And then you went to college,

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and then you blew up on TikTok, and now you're just a

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freshman with everyone else, and you have millions of people that are

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following you. That must have been so bizarre. It was

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bizarre, and it's kind of why I left. I had, like, a little bit, and

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my freshman year, it was, like, not enough to live off of, so I was

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normal. And then the summer after freshman year,

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it just was when, like, the astronomical amount of people

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started following me. And then I was like, I think I can live off

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of this now, and I might be okay. And luckily, I was correct.

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But, yeah, I dropped out. I only made it a year in one semester, and

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I was like, bye. Got to go. Yeah, I'm out. Okay. And then you move.

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Did you move to L. A from San Diego? Yeah, I did. I put all

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my things in a car and just drove up and didn't really tell

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anyone. Yeah, I was like, it's so close. I'll be fine.

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That's what. That's good because. Because I think you're telling me last time. Yeah, it

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was weird. Like, when you went back. Yeah. It was, like, in between, like, you

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blew up, and then you had to go back to school, and then it was,

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like, real, like, everyone. You were on everyone's for you page all

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the time. Yeah. It was just really hard to balance the two as

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well. And it really felt like I had to make a choice because I was

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trying to do school, and I was, like, much more interested in trying to proceed

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with the career and really do tick tocks, like, every single day and

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do the music. So I was fighting. You know, I had a roommate, too,

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and I wasn't fighting with her, but fight to find the time to, like,

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make a video and balance class. I was, like, recording

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my little voiceovers in the bathroom very quietly so that my

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roommates wouldn't hear me. I was like, this. This isn't gonna work.

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I gotta go. Yeah, I gotta go. Stop. Sure.

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Wow. Well, with that, did you. Because obviously you're putting out music now, and

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I know we. We talked. It kind of started with covers, Right? You started doing

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covers first and then into your own music.

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Do you still do this the other content that you're doing online or are

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you basically all in music full force

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now? I'm pretty much all music. It's definitely my

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focus. But I still do make content just because I think that's fun and I

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like making it. So I've been kind of balancing the two of them

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at the moment. Okay. Yeah. I just curious because I know for your

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Instagram it's mainly just all your music stuff. Yeah, definitely.

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I try to like separate it per platform and I think Instagram is

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very much music heavy and it comes off that way. And I

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try to be music heavy on the other platforms too, but give them a little

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bit of a silly video once in a while. Yeah, for sure.

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So you were working on my. My Worst Enemy then that would have

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been the EP that you were working on at the time? Yeah. That's so funny

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because now it's like a core memory of mine.

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It came out I think like, I think three years ago.

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Yeah, 2023. So. Yeah, we're almost in 2026.

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Yeah. Oh geez. Yeah, three years ago was the

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debut EP. But that was really exciting. I didn't really know where it was

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going to take me and luckily people loved it. They received it so well and

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so now I've just been on the music path the whole time. Yeah, that's what

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you were kind of talking about, that you're like, I don't know what the Internet's

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going to think of me. You were kind of. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what's

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going to happen when I put the music out. Who knows? And sure.

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I mean every song on that EP has 2 million

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plus streams. So people actually that was why. What was it

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like putting that first song out and then just. Were you like.

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Hopefully any. Hopefully it's not like Meg, you know,

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less than 1,000 for a long time. Yeah, Spotify, something like

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that. I actually never had. That was like my biggest fear and I never

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have had the like less than 1,000 show up in my profile. I think

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when I dropped Romance's dad, I remember I was like really looking at it.

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I think I got like 10,000 streams the first day and I was

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like, oh, people actually are. Are going to listen to this. And I

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loved it. But you never know with the Internet. And I've definitely been bullied quite

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a lot over the years for making music and like choosing

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to do something else. Cuz you know, people want to put you in the box

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and you stay there forever. And I was like, I'm going To make a song

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now and everyone shouldn't listen to it. Yeah, but I mean, what

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you've achieved in the. Just the cup, you know, two and

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a half years, three years or whatever now isn't. Is

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incredible. So when you put that out, like, you didn't have.

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I mean, at that point, were you like, okay, I'm gonna. Did you have a

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plan? Like, I'm gonna put this song out and then we're gonna put the EP

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out and then I'm gonna tour the stuff. Like, were you kind of thinking that

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way or, like, how do you get into it? Like, I mean, from

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you kind of when we spoke, which I think is really cool. It's kind of

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like you entering into music now. Yeah. Or like, we're

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kind of. So I'm. I'm just curious, like, how that all went in the very,

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very beginning, what that was like, like putting out your first song. Were you, like,

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nervous and then like, how do you move forward once people start caring?

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Yeah, I was really nervous. I never knew what people were going to think. I

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think I had actually leaked Runner up, which was a different song off

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the ep. The plan was always to make an ep and I kind

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of was bouncing around trying to find a producer. And then once I really

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meshed with this producer, Code Blooded, who did my who,

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and we made it all together and he did Romance Is Dead. And I had

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leaked Runner up and people were really excited about that one. And so

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Runner up was like an even greater follow up to Romance Is

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Dead, because so many people now, they were really waiting on this song and,

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like, super excited and still one of my favorites. But I was super nervous

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because releasing music is always really scary. And I think it went

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pretty well for me and I'm very grateful for that. And I think I had

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a story to tell, which was great. So I was hoping that people, you

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know, could relate to it. And I was being pretty honest in these songs

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and luckily it turned out well. But I was definitely scared. It's

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scary to see, you know, the, like, artist profile become real

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and show up and to see the songs published. It's, like,

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really hard to explain, but I was like. I had been holding onto the demo

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and listening to it, and then to see it as a real song

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listed under my name was very crazy. And I was like, oh, my

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gosh. And the ep, now I have an album, but it was like seeing

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five songs on top of each other. I was like, wow, I'm the real

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deal now. I'm really out here for sure.

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But do you guys start getting like, did you have a label and stuff at

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the time? I don't think you did. Now you do. No, I didn't. Right. So

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it was just all on your own. You're just independently doing this. And then when

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the songs get millions of streams, are people reaching out to you being like, hey,

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like, have you thought about doing a tour? Have you thought about putting.

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Signing this record contract? Like, were you getting reached out to, like, that?

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Not after the ep. Honestly, I hadn't gotten any, like, label

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deal offers after the EP specifically. But things kind

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of changed after I released Happy Ending. And I think Happy Ending

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was the follow up to the ep and people were like, oh,

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I really, really like this song. I think it showcased more of what I could

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do with my voice and it had, you know, lower,

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very sung, pret, pretty Evanescence kind of verses and

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a heavy chorus and it was very honest still. And that's

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when record labels and people had a lot of interest in me and they were

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like, wow, this is a good song. And you know, you've

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proven you can make a bunch of good songs. And people still liked the ep,

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but it's always great to see that an artist can grow and try something

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different. Because Happy Ending at the time, like, didn't really match the rest of my

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discography. But yeah, got a lot of people interested. And that was definitely the

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song that, like, blew up the project and really got people

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listening. I mean, yeah, it's like 11 million plus

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on Spotify itself. So was that something that. Did it start off

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on? Like, was it something that. Were you doing a lot of the

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teasing and trying to get people excited about it, like via your social media

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and kind of tying it back to. To Spotify or wherever you're.

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You're sending people? Yeah, I did that a lot during the ep.

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The way I would promote is like, say, excuse me, say something before

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and then play the song of, like, how it related to my emotions.

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And then when Happy Ending came around, I related it to

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the song by Salem Elise that was called Mad at Disney. And that

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video specifically blew up. And what was funny is that it was the

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first video I had ever posted of Happy Ending. It had

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just been a demo before that. We had no plan to release it.

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I just was like, I'm gonna post this song today. And then it. Now I

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don't even know how many views it has, but I ended up getting like 10

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million views and a bunch of people, thousands of comments. And

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it did well on like all of the platforms. So we rushed to

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release Happy Ending. Like the photo we had taken from a previous

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shoe. I didn't even shoot that. We sent it to an artist and was like,

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can you make a cover art? Like, this is what we want. We need it

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asap. And Message the producer were like, we need to finish the song

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now. Like, we need to drop it. So, yeah, Rush

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and I kind of learned it can be super spontaneous like that and

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you never know what's gonna blow up. Honestly, you can't. I didn't predict that

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song. It's very pessimistic and people were like, yeah, this is the one. This is

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the one. Yeah. I've had so many artists on that have talked about that or

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had that moment where they put the song out or they'll go live or go

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on their tick tock and just play like a verse or chorus of a song

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they're working on and then it'll be like millions of right views and

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it's like, oh, now I gotta get to the studio to record this. The song

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isn't even done, so I gotta finish it. Like it's all these things. So,

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yeah, I mean, that's wild to see it go up that

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big. Especially after, you know, your EP does really well. And then that one just

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skyrocketed. That probably would felt a lot of validation for like,

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okay, yeah, I am a singer and I should be doing this.

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Yeah, definitely. And I think with the success came a lot of hate

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too, because not everybody was on board. But what happens is people

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will hate streams anyway and they want to listen to the full song

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after hearing it on TikTok. So all of that really worked in my

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favor. I remember, I think it got like 30,000 the

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first day, which was a lot for me. And I was like, wow. But people

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are still hating on it. You know, they're calling it tick tock music. They're just

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saying it's not good. Honestly, they just say

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that to jump on. Sure. You know, the hate train. But

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I thought I. I thought it was good and I still think that. No, it's.

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I'm awesome. And so once you're getting. Once people start reach out. When that song

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does big, are you like, what. What's kind of the next

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move? Obviously you put an album out with that song on it. Yeah. So

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I signed with Awall and then got a

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little album deal. It was a short eight song. So I went in and started

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working with some new producers and just trying some new

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styles and figuring out the sound and building out the

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album, which is really exciting. And I started dropping. I dropped, I think,

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one more single before Happy Ending that didn't make as

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much of a wave. And then Happy Ending and then started working

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right on the album and I. It's all blur now. It's been

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so, so many years. Yeah. What was the next single?

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It definitely was something. I think it

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might have been Cheap Motel or one of those. But yeah, I started working on

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the album and trying a bunch of new things, and it was really

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fun because. You just put that album out this year, right? Earlier this

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year. Yeah, I think. Was it.

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I know. Yeah. Maybe in the beginning of the year. I mean, it's. Yeah, it's

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almost the end of the year. Yes, it was the very beginning of the year.

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I know. I'm like, it's 2026 now. But, yeah, the very beginning of

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this year, I put out the album and that was really exciting to see

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that many songs all together. And I had been working on it

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for so long, like a year behind the scenes. It was cool to see it

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be done finally. And you had a team in a record label at

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that time with that. Yeah. Which is super cool. I remember it got put on.

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One of the songs was put on All New Rock, which was really exciting for

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me. I was like, I've never been playlisted before. This is like the coolest thing

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ever. And it was great. Did you. They put you on tour on that

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album or had you played a lot of shows in between? Like, even when

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Happy Ending blew up or any of that stuff, were you playing out a lot?

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Yeah, I did a Happy Ending tour. I didn't do one for Loser.

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It just. The cards didn't work out on that one. But I did do one

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for Happy Ending and it was awesome. And it was cool to see that the

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audience was translating into real people. And I just. It was

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just a us tour, but it was great. We went all around the us,

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Met so many fans, and it was so cute. Would love to tour again.

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Because you. You've been doing shows on this new song, though, haven't you? Or you've

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been playing shows recently. Not yet. We're gonna try. Okay. Maybe

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I think I should old video. Maybe I saw something else. But. No,

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you definitely should with

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the. The touring. Yeah. Because it's interesting because trying to get people to leave,

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even Tick Tock to go to your Insta or to leave one app to go

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to your Spotify to just play the records itself. Right. That's a Steve. That's

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a step. Right. Like, oh, I'm not to leave. I'm gonna go do this.

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But then to get somebody to pay their money coming out to your show and

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like, now you see people and in the crowd, that has to be a totally

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different experience. It is. And I definitely was just a lot of

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pushing. I would post about it, like, every single day. It'd be on my story

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every single day, you know, on every single platform. And it's kind of just

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getting it in front of people, too. And with my fan base, a lot of

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them were young, so what happens is they can't buy the ticket. They have to

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ask a parent and then the parent has to buy the ticket and, you know,

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figure out. Yeah. The math of how far is

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it. But it was really sweet and sweet to see, like, the families

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that will come out and bring the kids. And it's so cute.

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Going into the Loser album, like, working with different people, was that hard? Was that

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harder for you or is. Did you enjoy that? Like, because.

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Yeah, the first EP was all with the same person, right? Yeah, Yeah, I loved

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it. And he definitely did. I think Happy Ending and In

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Loving Memory by Cold Blooded were both on the album. So he was

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still there. Love him. And then I started working with Courtney

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Ballard, who was awesome. I just collaborated with him again

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for my next project. He's so awesome. He did

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Loser and Super Glue, and those are really adorable, fun songs

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that I love so much. I worked with Mike Green too, which is really

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cool. He was a great guy. He's worked with, like,

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Paramore in the super early days, and it was really cool.

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And there definitely was more collaborators.

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I like him on that album. Yeah. Did you do it in la? Did you

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record it? Yeah, I'm an LA girl. Yeah. No, I think

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some people are in, like, Tennessee. I don't know. That's where I'm at now, in

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Nashville. Okay, gotcha. You're probably your Paramore producers. It might be a

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Nashville, but. Yeah, that's cool.

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So with. So, yeah, you put that up, but you didn't tour it. But I

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mean, obviously worked with new people on that. The album. And I love

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your sound like you. And we talked about this before. I said, like, what is

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the sound of your project going to be like? Because you hadn't seen anything else

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and you're like, well, it's gonna be like this pop punk, like, you know, harder

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rock. And I was like, that's what I love. And I listen to it. I

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was like, yeah, it's. That's it. And I feel like it's even getting Heavier

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with the new song. It's real heavy. Oh, yeah. We just been,

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like, climbing the scale of heavy music. And I was just like,

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how far can I take this? I think one

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big thing for me, too. I love pop rock music. And when I was, like,

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working on the next project after the album, I was trying to make pop

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rock, and it just kind of wasn't resonating with me anymore. And

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my taste had gotten a lot heavier. And the references and things

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I listened to were like, poppy and Bring Me Horizon and Bad

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Omens. And I was like, this is not pop rock music. This is

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like some of the, you know, some of them are metal. Metal core. I was

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like. I started asking for heavier and heavier, and

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I started working with Eric Rahn, who's super great, and he had done some

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Bad Omens and a bunch of really sick heavy stuff. And

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he worked with, like, I Prevail. And he's such a good

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match. I'm a huge I Prevail fan. He was such a great

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match and understood and wasn't afraid to go heavier

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with me because I wanted to go heavier and had some songs on the last

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album that were rejected just because they didn't really fit the vibe.

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I kind of had that pop rock thing going and I had

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the acoustic orchestrated one Kiss of Death.

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So I had kind of gone all over the place. Yeah. And then I was

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like, I want to go heavier, but I can't fry Scream. So

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it's like an ode to Evanescence. A lot of people have been pointing. Out,

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well, I think it's awesome. And then, like, the new one, Critical is

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very, very heavy. The guitars in the beginning is super heavy.

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Yeah, I love it with. So where do you. Do you work?

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Like, after Loser came out, you fear of going out as the next record

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that you put out, and then obviously Critical is the newest one. So are these

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going to be on, like, a new project? Like a. That you're going

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to be putting out? Yeah, yeah. I don't have, like, a date

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yet. I just been saying yes to let people know it's coming.

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Yeah. I'm on the second album, the sophomore album, which should be very

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cool. Yeah, it's going to be much heavier. And I think Fear

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of Going out was heavier in, like, a grungy way, but it was still bright

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and kind of fun and, you know, makes you want to get up and dance.

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And Critical is a lot heavier and definitely was a step

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in the direction that people should expect on the album. And I

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think Fear of Going out is honestly the Lightest of the bunch. And there

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are no other songs like Fear of Going Out. I'm like, sorry if that

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one's your favorite, but that's the only one. There's one that is still

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heavier, but maybe close. Everything is gonna be very

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hard rock. Okay. So critical is what you're going

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for. Like, that's. It's gonna be that heavy. Definitely. A lot of

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breakdowns. A lot of pushing the bar

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of hard rock and metal as far as I could possibly go.

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Is it. I mean, have you had a chance to play that song live yet?

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No, I can't wait. I want to, honestly. Different?

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Yeah. How different? Yeah, your stage person, like,

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performance will be a lot, I would imagine. Heavier.

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Yeah. I'm gonna have to, like, put my, you know, songs into, like, act

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one and Act Two so that it's not. We go from pop

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rock to, like, metal. All of a sudden, everyone's like, what's going on? So

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maybe I'll. Maybe I'll split it up. I love it. Well,

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is there, like. Do you have the songs all done? Are you still kind of

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working towards. The building it out? I'm like. I'd say

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75% done. Like, there's quite a few that are on the

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album, but it's definitely longer than the last one, which is

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exciting because people said it was short, but I'm like, there's more.

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Don't worry. So it'll be longer than eight records or eight songs?

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Yeah, for sure, a lot longer. Very, very cool. And are you

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working with Eric Ron again on this one? The whole album, or.

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Yeah, he's done quite a few songs. I think I have three with him, and

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I love them so much. I've been working with a ton of people. I just

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worked with Matt Squire. He's super, super

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awesome. I had many questions for him. Lots of collaborators

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on this new one. I've been branching out, too. I work with John London,

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who's super great, has done some stuff with Falling. He's done, like, all the stuff

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with Falling in Reverse and. Super awesome. Yeah.

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A lot of great collaborators on this next project. I can't wait.

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I love it. Well, I appreciate your time. Thank you so much again for doing

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this, Bailey. And then I hope you do a tour and come to here in

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Nashville and play Me too. I will. I'll make a note.

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Nashville is included. I love it. Well, I asked you this last time.

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I'm going to ask you the same question again. I want to know if you

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have any advice for aspiring artists. I

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would say to keep pushing and keep trying new things. If what

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you're doing isn't showing any results, I've had to push myself

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out of bounds and get a little bit uncomfortable and annoy people.

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To push your music out there, you have to be annoying, and you just have

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to get past it. And I post every single day because you never know who's

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going to view the video, and you never know if you if that's gonna be

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the one to blow your song up. I didn't know with happy ending, and

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I just tried something and it worked. Just keep trying and trying and trying.

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And that's my advice. Be extremely persistent and

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determined, and success will find you.

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Bringing it backwards?

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Bringing it backwards? Bringing it backwards?

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Bringing it back? Bring it back?

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Bring it back?