Interview with Jenna Raine

1 (2m 52s): Hello. It is Adam. Welcome back to bring in a backwards, a podcast where both legendary and rising artists tell their own stories of how they achieve stardom. On this episode, we had a chance to hang out with Jenna rain over zoom video, Jenna was born and raised in the Dallas Fort worth area, and she talks about how she got into music. Jenna doesn't really come from a musical household. One of her uncles is a percussionist and he played on a Grammy award winning record. But other than that, no real musicians in her family. She started taking piano lessons at a very early age, but in third grade, out of nowhere, she told her parents I'm signing up for the talent show and I'm doing a Del rolling in the deep I'm playing the piano part and I'm singing it. 1 (3m 36s): And I guess her parents were somewhat terrified for her, but she got up there, did it, did an amazing job. Her parents put her in vocal lessons, more piano lessons. She talked about auditioning for a girl group that did like a nationwide search. She went to LA ended up landing the role in the girl group. Once the girl group kind of ran its course around 14 years old, she started writing her own songs and pursuing a career as a solo artist. From there, she did two tours, a Europe, a us tour put out a couple of records, but it wasn't until quarantine that she really got the confidence to nail down her sound and write songs herself. She talks about having the confidence to, you know, finally use her voice and put together records and songs that she really, really wanted to do during quarantine on Tik TOK, she started a 100 song challenge where she wanted to write a hundred songs in one year. 1 (4m 32s): And in hopes that one of the songs would do something and she would use that to kind of PIR songwriting skills through doing this challenge at song number 45, she wrote, see you later. She said, she wrote the song in 37 minutes because she has a voice memo of the entire process. And the song just went viral and tick dog had over 200,000 views and re shares pretty much overnight. And that's when she really landed on this. This is the sound through that song. She was able to work with some big producers like Ryan Tedder and a couple other massive names in the music industry. She talked about putting out the song 2%, which was one that she started in a writing session, but it never really finished. 1 (5m 16s): She took it home, brought it to the 100 song challenge at song number 72. I believe it was her mom looked it up for us song 72. She puts out 2% and another one does super well. She's got more music coming out. Although it's been a little over a year, she's still carrying on with the hundred song challenge. She said, she's at 81 now. So let's see what the next 19 songs have to offer for her. But obviously she's doing amazing, amazing things. And you can watch the video with myself and Jenna on our Facebook page and YouTube channel at bringing it backwards. It would be awesome if you subscribe to our channel like us on Facebook, follow us on Instagram and tick talk at bringing back pod. 1 (5m 60s): And if you're listening to this on Spotify or apple music, it'd be amazing if you follow us there as well and hook us up with a five star review. 2 (6m 9s): We'd appreciate your support. If you follow and subscribe to our podcasts, wherever you listen to podcasts, 1 (6m 15s): We're bringing it backwards with Jenna rain. Our podcast is about you and your journey and music. And we'll talk about the new record as well. That's cool. 4 (6m 25s): Exciting, awesome. 1 (6m 26s): Sweet. I did see. Or you born and Mary's in Texas. Is that what I read? Yes. Okay. Whereabouts in Texas? Dallas, 4 (6m 35s): Dallas, 1 (6m 35s): Texas. Okay. Like a suburb of Dallas. I have family that lives in the outskirts. I'm just curious. 4 (6m 40s): Yes. In a suburb. It's called like south lake. 1 (6m 44s): Okay. How close is it? The Plano? I'm just curious. 4 (6m 48s): One of my close friends lives in Plano. That's like 50 minutes is traffic. It could be an hour and a half, but 1 (6m 54s): Yeah, Dallas Fort worth is massive. It's hard to believe how big it is. 4 (6m 58s): It's ginormous. It's ginormous. I don't think people realize that Texas is not always this little small town with farms. I think that's what everybody imagines when I tell them I'm from Texas. 1 (7m 13s): Yeah, because Houston's gigantic. I mean, tech, Dallas forwards huge. Even Austin. What? I mean, it's all big. Right? 4 (7m 20s): Huge. Like downtown Dallas is ginormous. Definitely not 1 (7m 25s): The smell. Right. I mean, even getting from my aunt and uncle's house to downtown from Plano is like 50 minutes. And it's all still considered within the same geographical location. It's nuts. 4 (7m 36s): Yeah. It's wild. If I went that distance in LA, it would take like three hours. 1 (7m 45s): Well, that's awesome. What was it like growing up there? 4 (7m 47s): It was so fun. Oh my gosh. I love Texas. I've always told my parents. If I end up being successful enough to be able to afford two houses, I would love to be able to go back and forth from wherever I'm based. And Texas, I love Texas so much. It's definitely my hometown. And I'm not a hater of my hometown. You know, those people that are like, I need to get out as soon as I can. Yeah. Me and my friends. We'll all stay there for our whole lives if we could. So, 1 (8m 14s): So you'd move back to the same town he grew up in. Yeah. I love, 4 (8m 18s): I love it. I grew up in it's really safe and it's so fun. And you know, everybody around you, I mean, there's probably, I don't know how many people live in it in our city, but it's really not that many, our specific city. 1 (8m 32s): That's awesome. Yeah. A lot of people are like, I can't wait to get out of this town. I grew up in San Diego. So I'm kind of like you where I was like, ah, I kind of like it here. Yeah. 4 (8m 42s): I love it, Texas. My mom is from Ohio, so Yeah, Canton, Ohio. It's literally, 1 (8m 50s): That's the where the football hall of fame is 4 (8m 54s): Everybody, but 1 (8m 58s): I have family in Cleveland. So I know that the struggle of Ohio cans pretty cool. I went to that hall of fame for it's amazing how big the Superbowl rings are. They look all dainty on these guys fingers and you see them up close. It's like massive, gigantic like a necklace. Well, so tell me about your music career. How did you originally get into music? 4 (9m 22s): Well, I didn't really grow up in a musical family. Normally. That's everybody's story. That's definitely not mine. My uncle is kind of into music, but that's kind of as close as it gets, 1 (9m 39s): Like listening to music 4 (9m 42s): Percussionist, he won a Grammy, he won a Grammy. 1 (9m 46s): Oh. So he's into music. He's he's way into it. 4 (9m 50s): Yeah. He, he was kind of really into it, but that's like the only, and, and he's like half my uncle cause my dad and him are half siblings. So I don't know if there's any connection in the family. Roots is what I'm saying. But I grew up an athlete. I played softball for eight years and I tried to do music and softball for the longest time. Don't recommend trying to do two things in two completely different areas, not, not fun, but I just couldn't pick in between them. And I grew up in the church. So I loved listening to worship music. I always wanted to be a worship leader that was kind of my little girl dream or kind of what I always wanted to do. 4 (10m 33s): And I always, always singing around the house. My sister was a senior in high school when I was four. And so I grew up listening to Taylor swift love Taylor swift. Like she was so high up 1 (10m 44s): There. 4 (10m 46s): Oh mom. And yeah, Taylor's amazing. I grew up listening to her in third grade. I told my mom I wanted to do a talent show and she literally asked me what my talent was. Oh, 1 (11m 1s): I'm going to hit softballs. 4 (11m 3s): What's what's your talent. I'm going to, I'm going to sing a Dell and play the piano. And she literally had a heart attack. I could just see her face dropped so quickly. She's like, oh, amazing. And I did it. And I think that was kind of a very eye-opening experience for everybody realizing that there was actually potential there. I started getting vocal lessons. 1 (11m 30s): Wait, what? Sorry. Real quick. What year was that? You said fourth grade. 4 (11m 34s): Third grade. 1 (11m 34s): Third grade. Okay. And did you, you must have had piano lessons at some point, if you could get up on a Dell song. Right? 4 (11m 41s): I, it was, it was really bad piano skills, but I had started piano in preschool. I went to a really like They had really cool classes at my preschool, but I was able to learn a couple chords and I continued to take like classical. 4 (14m 52s): I did not like taking like classical piano classes. It was awful, but I just didn't enjoy it genuinely at all. But that same teacher, I asked her to teach me rolling in the deep by Adele and she did. And it was just like these chunky chords. It was like the only thing that I could play. So I had some like knowledge of the piano, but I wasn't this amazing piano player. So 1 (15m 18s): Where'd you get up there and play. I mean, that takes a lot of courage to play your own. It wasn't like you're singing to the karaoke version of it. 4 (15m 26s): Slightly, me being delusional and being very confident. I've always been very confident, but looking back I'm like, how did I have confidence in that, in that my voice was pretty good, but I literally stopped playing the piano at one point and just sing on the stool because I didn't know the rest of it. And my teacher was like, we don't have time to learn the rest. I was like, okay, fine. She's like, just stop playing and start singing the rest of the chorus. I was like, okay. So I got better over time for sure. But it, 10 years old, I started getting vocal lessons. And within six months of going to this place called septi and entertainment group, when the step team has been my vocal coach, since I was like 10 or nine, I don't remember how old I was, but I also got choreography classes. 4 (16m 17s): And my choreography coach told me that there was an audition to be in this girl group. And I decided to do the audition. I made the call back, flew back to LA for the very first time at 10 and made cut. And I made the girl group. And that's kind of how I got started in the industry and started coming to LA all the time. 1 (16m 36s): So you went to LA to audition for the girl group. It wasn't something that had started where in your town or anything? This is like a thing. Oh wow. 4 (16m 44s): They did like a like worldwide audition for all these girls. Oh 1 (16m 49s): Yeah. Validating moment. Yeah, I know. It's really 4 (16m 52s): Cool. But meanwhile, I was like still playing softball. I was like, I just don't want to play softball. I just kept flying back for tournaments and stuff, which was fun. But I was doing both at the same time forever. And when I started my solo career around 14, I realized I loved songwriting because the girl group, we did like one songwriting camp retreat or whatever those are called. And I genuinely loved it. I thought it was so fun. And so I started getting songwriting lessons at the D and entertainment group and my guitar and piano coach. He was the same guy. He taught me how to song, write for two months. And then I started writing on my own and co-writing in the studio and that's kind of how I started writing as well. 1 (17m 36s): Wow. When you were in this girl group, I don't want to say too long on this. I'm just curious. What were the songs presented to you guys? Like here's these songs and you're going to okay. They really didn't have any creative say in it, no 4 (17m 47s): Creative say at all. And we would learn the and go to the studio. It was like whoever saying the best would get those parts and stuff. So yeah, it was while we were like 11. So 1 (17m 60s): That's right about heartbreak and the, in this girl group, did you play live shows or was it mainly just recorded stuff 4 (18m 9s): And a dance through the girl group? We were learning by like world-class choreographers, Nick Demora and Willdabeast. They're amazing. Nick Tamara works with Justin. I think they've been working together for years, but Yeah, he's an amazing choreographer. So I learned how to dance and perform by being in the girl group, which really gave me a step ahead in the moment that I'm now having. Like when I come out with more music, I will be touring more and I've toured on my own three times now, but I really got a lot of advice and lessons from those choreographers. If I hadn't had that experience, I definitely would not be as prepared to tour as I am now. 1 (18m 50s): Well, coming from softball teams for, was it fairly easy to kind of jump into this girl group with other people? You're, I mean, being able to collaborate within the group since you came from a team skirt, 4 (19m 1s): It was, it was a lot easier. And I think I was one of the main ones that was used to working with a team and I knew it was a team effort. It wasn't us against each other. We all ended up being sisters. Like we literally did a summer trip this summer, even though we don't work together anymore, we're still so close and we all consider each other best friends still to this day. And we're all 18 now. So it's really fun. Being able to have those people and to send them my demos and stuff, and for them to give them to give me their honest opinion on them. It's so comforting because I'll send my songs to other friends. And I know that they don't really know music very well, but I can trust their opinions and trust what they have to say. 4 (19m 43s): And there'll be brutally honest with me. So it is very nice and in a way we all still work as a team, which is really cool. And we all get to share the successes that we're having as individuals as well. 1 (19m 54s): That's so cool. That is so cool. So when you started writing songs, how did, like, what was the moment that you were like, you know, I really enjoy doing this, but now I'm going to put out a record on as me, you know, like now you have a solo career. Was that difficult to do? 4 (20m 7s): It was definitely a step that I hadn't done at all. I had no idea what I was doing, but I started co-writing around 14 with a bunch of other writers, which was amazing, but I was not courageous enough to voice my opinion, which is kind of a huge deal when you're trying to be a singer songwriter. And often I would kind of shrink in that room and not own the room, like the songwriting room. I didn't know how to do that. And co-writing with people was amazing, but it was very hard for me to speak up on the production, to speak up on certain lyrics that I didn't necessarily love or relate to. 4 (20m 50s): And it did not hit me until quarantine where I learned my own sound and learned what I personally wanted to write about. And I was sat on my piano for hours at a time because I had nothing else better to do. And if it weren't for lockdown, I don't know if I would have been able to learn that about myself. And it's very hard to find all my gosh, somebody so angry. There's just a horn being honked. Like, 1 (21m 20s): Sorry, I don't even hear it. Okay, good. 4 (21m 26s): I really hope this is not my wash. They're like really mad. 1 (21m 31s): Somebody is very angry. Are you in LA right now? 4 (21m 38s): So annoying? Oh my gosh. Road rage. Anyway, but until lockdown, I was not able to find my own sound, which is a huge challenge for any artist, no matter how big or small they are. And after I wrote, see you later, it was kind of a song that came out really quickly. Like when I write on my own, I don't necessarily second guess any ideas because there isn't any other opinions in the room. I just kind of write and go with the flow and see you later came about within like 37 minutes. I have a full voice memo when I wrote the song and after I posted it, it blew up and I had been waiting for something to blow up because people knew me as a tape talker, not an artist which made me so irritated. 4 (22m 24s): Nobody knew that I was a singer songwriter and 1 (22m 27s): Oh, you had a falling on tick-tock before the song blew up. Was that just through other things? Besides music 4 (22m 33s): Relatable girl content was basically was like, like humor and funny tick talks. That was literally my whole entire Tik TOK. And when I posted a singing video would get like a couple thousand likes, which is so irritating. And my song writing coach, except in when I was 14. And I only wrote with him for a couple of weeks before I started co-writing with other people, he told me, you will not be a decent songwriter until you write a hundred songs by yourself. And so during lockdown, I was like, I'm going to make this a Tik TOK thing and say that I'm writing a hundred songs in a year and I'm going to have everybody give me like songwriting requests and what they want me to write about. 4 (23m 17s): And I'm just going to post my favorite songs to take talk, and hopefully one of them will stick. And that was see you later for sure. 1 (23m 24s): Wow. That's a brilliant idea. So how many songs did you cause Tik TOK essentially is such a focus group, right? I mean, a lot of people aren't going onto their following page and really clicking through the it's you're sitting on that for you page. Right. And it's just like all this stuff that you might be interested in, and those are the people that might not even be following you. That could be giving you the can like ideas or liking it or making it go viral. And how long did it take? Like how many songs are you in like 75 in, when you hit the, when you wrote, see you later, like where were you at? As far as that one, 4 (23m 60s): I was at song 45, 45. Yeah. Which is honestly a lot of time. I started it at the beginning of 2021. And I posted, see you later, eBay Motors (24m 13s): Gearheads. No that some projects need so many parts. It feels like you need a whole storage unit just to store them. That's what eBay motors, 122 million parts are for. Think of it. As your virtual parts garage. They've always got the right fitment at the right prices. Use the eBay motors app or visit eBay motors.com. Let's ride. 4 (27m 7s): So that was like, I don't know how many months that is like six months into the year. Like I'd been doing it for such a long time. And one, a couple songs had like 10,000 likes or one of them had 100,000 likes. It was about liking like acting like you're dating Draco Malfoy. Don't ask me why that was the one that did fall out of all the songs. But that was the one that had done well before. See you later. And I was like, well, that doesn't make sense if I released that song. And when I posted see you later, crowd surf, I've been working with them for social media. They had Nathan Chapman's contact and they're like, Helen was like, this is going to be a stretch, but we're going to reach out to him. 4 (27m 52s): Cassie has his number. I was like, okay. Okay. And so they sent it to him and he told me that he wanted to reply yes, immediately, but he needed to wait, just, you know, like be cool. 1 (28m 7s): Yeah. 4 (28m 9s): And I flew out like two weeks after he said that he would do it. And he had already done the track like before I'd even gotten there and I recorded it and it was basically done within a week or two. And he is a very quick worker prompts to Nathan, but it was a no brainer to really see you later as the single, after all of the songs that I'd written prerecording team. So, 1 (28m 33s): Well, you have a couple of records out prior, like an EAP and some other songs. And was that in those years where you felt like you couldn't really voice your opinion on what was happening? Okay. 4 (28m 43s): 100%. But I toured with those songs. Like I went on tour three times in Europe and I toured once in a America and it was just call it America. She just weirded out. But when I toured in the UK, people genuinely loved the music that I had already out. And these are like my old G fans, like my own. Like, they're like my best friends. Like I did a meetup for four hours at an ice cream shop with them. And I just talked with them for like four hours. And it was so fun. It was in like London and I 1 (29m 20s): Love them to do that. That's 4 (29m 23s): So rad. Yeah. They're awesome. And I, a bunch of people have been like, well, you should probably like take down those songs because they don't represent who you are as an artist now. And I'm like, that's true, but I can't leave them hanging because when I perform these songs in London, everybody knows the words. Like everybody genuinely loves these that I had when I really songs at 14, 15. And I'm not going to take that away from them because that's like genuinely a part of who they are and the songs that they love. And I would hate if an artist did that to me. So if anything, I'm going to wait until I have more music out, down the line, but those, those songs are a big part of me, but they were definitely a huge part. 4 (30m 3s): And me not knowing how to voice my opinion and just trying to figure out my sound and literally not knowing who I was as an artist, but, 1 (30m 11s): Well, I think everyone struggles with that. I mean, to try to just be yourself. I mean, especially I come from the radio world and I remember when I first started doing the radio, like you would, I would try to like, you know, mimic what other people that I liked were doing. And then I would just get the vice, like, you know, you're the dude you, because no one else is gonna be you better than you are yourself. Kinda. It's just like the generic advice. And I'm like, what does that even mean? And then you finally like clicks one day and you're like, oh, this is what I'm, this is what I should be doing. 4 (30m 41s): 100% anytime somebody asks me, how, what, what advice would you give to a different like singer songwriter? 1 (30m 49s): Last question. You can answer it though. 4 (30m 55s): Oh, I can save it. But if you, oh, I'll go ahead. Since I'm already there, but they always ask me that. And I always say, I know it sounds so cliche, but you have to be yourself and not try to copy other artists because you're the only one that has your own ideas. Like nobody else has the same brain as you. And it's, it's so easy to fall in the cycle of wanting to like, you know, duplicate an artist that you love and love their music. And you can do that to a certain extent, but you have to have some originality. And that's what I always try to, you know, tell people to do, because when I was telling them like, oh, let's do a song like this of an artist that I really loved. 4 (31m 38s): That that goes absolutely nowhere. Like you have to come up with something original, which sounds absolutely impossible. But if you just get creative and have confidence in yourself, it's so easy. But yeah, that's what I would say to 1 (31m 52s): Confidence is such a hard thing to come by. I mean, the fact that you were in third grade and were confident enough to get them on the stage and play a tell, like, let's be real. That's pretty clear. 4 (32m 4s): I have no idea. I think my dad is just a whole different breed of a human. He was like, confidence is key. And I was like, oh 1 (32m 12s): Yeah, I didn't have that pounded in my head. I wish I did. I'm still like a timid around people. I can, when you were talking about being in a writing room and not being able to voice your opinion, I was just thinking to myself, like, if I was a song writer, that would be me, like, here's the idea. And then somebody would be like, oh yeah, it'd be rad if you did this. And then this I'd be like, oh, huh. Yeah, that does sound good. But like, that's cool that it like, so quarantine really lets you open up like that. You were able to what, because you didn't have enough, any voices in a room with you is that, 4 (32m 45s): And there was no pressure. Like none of these songs had to come out when I was writing with those writers, the songs that we were writing were totally coming out, no matter if I liked them or not. And that was kind of nerve wracking for me because it had to be perfect. And I was 14 and in for some of the writing sessions and I knew that these people were a lot more experienced than me. I was like, I'm not about to say something that they're just going to be like, oh yeah, let's do that. Let's do that because you know, I'm the artist. And I said it, but I knew that I didn't have a lot of experience in the writing room yet. I had no idea what I was doing. And so when I was in lockdown, there was no pressure at all. 4 (33m 26s): I posted tick talks every single day, like two to three tick talks at the time. And like none of them had to blow up and I wasn't scared of a video not blowing up. I think a lot of people, when a video doesn't do well, they'll delete it. And I've done that a couple of times because I'm like, okay, that was such an awful video. Why did I do that? But if it's something that I worked really hard on, like a song, I would never delete that. And I just started writing and never second guessed myself. And I'm such a huge perfectionist, which is insane. The fact that I'll just be like, okay, that's good. Like when I wrote, see you later, I didn't have that much time. And I was just thinking like, let me just write a song. 4 (34m 6s): And I just kept going with the flow. And I just let the lyrics in my brain, take me where it wanted to go. And I never second guessed any of the lyrics. Like every single lyric that I wrote was the first lyric that I thought of. Wow. Yeah. And I'm when I tell you, I'm a perfectionist dude I've made, if I film a video of me singing the songs on Tik TOK, when you see a, an original song that I post that at least took me an hour minimum and I like tops three hours. That's how wild I get with. 1 (34m 42s): But obviously that's, I mean, that's why it does well, I'm sure. I mean, how many million billions of people are on tick-tock like, you know, doing some thing and it takes them 30 seconds. They're like, yeah. Like it probably just lands in like one like, or to use or whatever. And I think there's something about putting time into it. Yeah. 4 (35m 3s): It's true. I agree. But see you later, I was actually rushed when I filmed that video and I was going to a Ranger's baseball game and I was like, oh, I have like 20 minutes to do this. And I did it like four times in the last take I posted. And I was like, okay, like, sure. And I posted and started blowing up and I'm like, you're kidding me. Like, I look back at that video and I cringe so hard because the notes aren't perfect. But I think that just proves the point that you don't have to necessarily be like pitch perfect. 24 7. Like it's just the reality of a singer. You can't sound perfect. 24 7. 4 (35m 43s): Yeah. It took me 20 minutes and I didn't drive myself nuts about it until after the fact. And people started liking the video and they had millions of views and I was panicking. 1 (35m 53s): So did it, was it quick, like when you got to the Rangers games, did you look down and it's like, oh, okay. I got to turn my phone off because it's going to explode. 4 (36m 1s): No, not at all. It had in an hour, it had 4,000 likes and I was like 1 (36m 7s): 4,000 likes. It was like, it's 4 (36m 9s): Blowing up, it's blowing up. And then in four hours it had 30,000 likes after the game was like 10 is 30,000 likes. And then the next morning it had like over 200,000 likes. And that's when I was like, it blew up overnight. So I wasn't awake when that was happening, but I was on my phone like every second of the day, just reloading it to watch the lights go up. 1 (36m 32s): I would do the same thing. It's like a, it's like the lottery, like a slot machine. You're like, whoa. Oh, there it goes. It's going up again. Oh, well you have another song also called 2%. Is that that's a new one as well. Right? 4 (36m 48s): It's a part of the 100 songs thing. 1 (36m 51s): And what number did that fall on? 1 (40m 1s): Because you don't know, sorry. 45 is the one that I remembered though. 4 (40m 7s): Yeah. 45. See you later. Or it might be the seventies. My mom was going to check for us, but 1 (40m 13s): You have like an Excel sheet or something of all of them 4 (40m 16s): And how she's to talk. 1 (40m 24s): There you go. That was smart. That's 4 (40m 26s): Smart. Not crazy. 1 (40m 28s): She was like giving 15 minutes account. 4 (40m 32s): I would never make her do that, but yeah, 2% I was riding in a room with Casey Smith and I was just throwing out there like Jenna, they always ask me what's in your little diary of song titles. And one of them was 2% and we kind of like pushed past that. And it reminded me of that idea that I had. And I was like, okay, since we didn't write that song, I'm going to write it as soon as I get home. Cause I think it's a really cool concept. And it's about the statistic of how only 2% of high school sweethearts get married. And I'm currently dating my high school sweetheart. And I feel like all the songs coming out or like all about heartbreak. And I even write songs about heartbreak for my like close friends and for all my friends on Tik TOK and fans like that are going through that stuff. 4 (41m 19s): I write songs for them and there's no like happy love songs. And so I was like, I need to write about this because it's such a cool concept. So I sat down and Ryan Tedder, who's my executive. He's so amazing. I thought 1 (41m 35s): That is cool. Yeah. He was a legend. He is. 4 (41m 38s): He's such a legend. I love him. He's such a cool guy, too, such a family guy. I love that. I love that. He's just like so normal, but he told me like, why don't you write your courses first? And I was like, I don't know. And he was like, just try, just try to write your course first, next time. So when I got home, I wrote 2% and I wrote the chorus first. And then the next day I wrote the verse and then the pre-courses and then I posted it the day after and I, I thought it was good. And I was like, maybe something will come out of this. And then people started making videos to my original audio and it has like 15,000 videos to it right now, which isn't safe for click talk. 4 (42m 20s): It might sound like a little number. Like if you're thinking of like a trend, like all of the, like, like kind of take talk popular high school sweethearts were all posting to the song, which was so cool. So excited that I was able to put a song out there that nobody had done yet. And it was like a different concept that I don't normally write about, which is very exciting. And even people that were like, oh yeah, well the 98% still loves the songs. 1 (42m 51s): Yeah. They're just bummed out that there, they didn't make the 2% cut. They're like, oh man. 4 (42m 57s): And God forbid, but if I become part of the 98%, I'll probably still love 2% just as much because it's such a fun, happy like song. So I'm very happy that everybody liked the song. 1 (43m 9s): That is awesome. And on the, on the hunter song challenge, did you finish it? Where are you at? What number are you on 4 (43m 15s): The song? 82. And we're a lot over a year. I started it in January 20, 21, 22 in, or 1 (43m 23s): You're not a lot of overt still, still February. 4 (43m 27s): The fair, like for months, actually two and a half months I was filming like for, cause I'm also an actress. So I was on set 24, 7 for two and a half months of 20, 21. And every single week I was supposed to write two songs. And when I was on set for those like weeks, I wrote maybe like three songs total because I was so busy, like memorizing lines and meeting the cast and being on set, like always, and that kind of took a bit of time away. And of course, see you later did really well. So I think I got out of it what I wanted anyway, but I'm still keeping the 100 songs till I get to 100 and I am, I'm definitely anticipating song 100 because I feel like it has to be really good. 4 (44m 13s): So I'm thinking maybe I'll just like skip and then 99 1 (44m 19s): Or did he write if you write the a hundred hits and you're like, this is going to be a hundred and then just hold it. Yeah, yeah. 4 (44m 26s): And just be like, yeah, this one. And then act like a song that I've already had written forever is, was song 100. Like the next song that does really well would be like, that was song 100. 1 (44m 38s): Okay. So that is amazing. And are you going to use, if you know, the hundred songs are going to put is that what's going to becoming a project hope? Is that the idea? 4 (44m 48s): I think so. I think picking the ones that people loved a lot. There's another song that I recently recorded that I posted on Tik TOK. And I'm not going to say which one, but it was one that a lot of my friends could relate to specifically. And I wrote it for one of them almost, and everybody loved it. And it's insane. Like the ratio of views and likes, like, you know, when it's like really close is really good. And there were a lot of shares to that song. And I recorded that song. I don't know if it'll make the project because obviously I'm hoping to do an album, which will probably come towards the end of this year, the beginning of next. 4 (45m 28s): But a lot of music will lead up to that and the song feels very special, but I've just been picking my favorite songs from the 100 songs. I never imagined that I would make an album out of all those songs. I mean, I could, but if, if they all blew up as much as see you later did, of course I would, but that's not thing, but it was just kind of a goal for myself to become a better songwriter and feel more confident in what I have to say in a writing room. 1 (45m 56s): Yeah. I love that. Well, I, you're doing amazing things, obviously. Congratulations on the success of that song. It's so cool that it kind of came the way it did. You should have released the 37 minutes of you riding in. I think that would be cool. 4 (46m 11s): What do you think about that? It's very hectic. If you listen to it, it's funny to listen to the song coming about, like to hear before I knew what the song was, is really cool. 1 (46m 21s): Yeah. Put it out. I'm just telling that could, that could fit. Like, I don't know how many tick talks that could make, like, you know, 37 at least, 4 (46m 30s): You know, that take talk sound of Taylor swift riding with her producer and they're riding getaway car and they, they figure out the bridge and like 20 seconds they write the bridge. Yeah. It's a viral sound on Tik TOK and everybody re-enacts it because they thought it was so cool. And it's so funny. Everybody's like me acting like I'm Taylor swift writing getaway car. And they have like the whole entire thing memorized of what she says. 1 (46m 57s): We could do something like that. That's awesome. That is a great idea. Didn't did mom ever figure out what number two, 2% was? I'm just curious 71. So 45 and 71. 4 (47m 8s): I haven't gotten very far since on 82, but I've been writing. Yeah. I've been using all my ideas with other writers, like with Ryan and with Casey and a bunch of other people that I've been writing with. I've been feeding them, my ideas that I've been wanting to write about because I know I'll be excited to write them, but then when I get home, I'm like, oh shoot. I used all of my ideas in the studio. I can't think of anything. 1 (47m 35s): Okay. So those are separate worlds. You don't take the world that you w when the writing room there to the Tik TOK hundred song challenge. Got it. 4 (47m 42s): Yeah. I definitely want the 100 songs to be strictly the songs that I wrote by myself. Love that. 1 (47m 48s): Yeah. Well, thank you so much. I know you are awesome. I really, really appreciate you taking time to hang out with me today. This has been so much fun. 4 (47m 55s): Thank you, Adam. No, this is very, very fun. And I loved her little chat. It's been, it's been very exciting to do things like this. Again,